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Old 01-26-2018, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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You have two distinct brands of Republicanism, both of them loathsome in their own unique way. You have the "new" brand of Republicanism, the racist, xenophobic, and hostile to intellectualism brand under Trump, who are loud, proud, and vocal of their right to remain ignorant, and you have the "old school' variety like Kristol, who still value intellect while being more than happy to enrich themselves and their friends through American military action against innocent and soft nations around the world. Both brands are disgusting, and both are in open conflict with one another.

Today's GOP consists largely of the Kristol variety, but they realize which way the winds are blowing, and the Frankenstein they created in Middle America, the ignorant, pot bellied FOX News watching redneck wearing a MAGA cap is now hostile to the Kristol variety that still values intellect, so they are dumbing things down daily while they screw over their base and blame societies problems on Democrats.

And it's working, because they base is too stupid to know any better.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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................And it's working, because they base is too stupid to know any better.
Priceless.
Priceless twice because the subject is stupid people.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Priceless.
Priceless twice because the subject is stupid people.
It's not priceless, it's sad. That's what America has become, the richest nation on earth who elected a reality TV star who is a pathological liar.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:36 AM
 
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You have two distinct brands of Republicanism, both of them loathsome in their own unique way. You have the "new" brand of Republicanism, the racist, xenophobic, and hostile to intellectualism brand under Trump, who are loud, proud, and vocal of their right to remain ignorant, and you have the "old school' variety like Kristol, who still value intellect while being more than happy to enrich themselves and their friends through American military action against innocent and soft nations around the world. Both brands are disgusting, and both are in open conflict with one another.

Today's GOP consists largely of the Kristol variety, but they realize which way the winds are blowing, and the Frankenstein they created in Middle America, the ignorant, pot bellied FOX News watching redneck wearing a MAGA cap is now hostile to the Kristol variety that still values intellect, so they are dumbing things down daily while they screw over their base and blame societies problems on Democrats.

And it's working, because they base is too stupid to know any better.
You gotta love that liberals can't make a single argument without founding it on ad-hominem rhetorical fallacies and simmering rage.

My favorite, in the above post and through all of the other nonsensical noise, is how the poster frames his or her political opinions as "intellectualism" vs. what constitutes the opinions of hose with whom he or she disagrees. Too funny, and ironically wholly anti-intellectual.

These rants are always a coherent treat.

Never mind the completely inaccurate characterization of "two kinds of Republican", and especially in regard to what the GOP "mostly consists of", which ignores the history of Conservatism, Republicanism, Neoliberalism, and Liberalism.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:39 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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kristol is a neo-con....in other words a slightly conservative democrat
there's a word I haven't heard for a while. 8-10 years ago, you couldn't post 5 times as a conservative on this forum without some moonbat screeching that you were a neo-con.
but kristol actually is one.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:41 AM
 
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It's not priceless, it's sad. That's what America has become, the richest nation on earth who elected a reality TV star who is a pathological liar.
True or not, that's the political cost for being too extreme on liberal issues and using judges to legislate from the bench. Your opponents take what they can get in terms of perceived effectiveness. Your unbearable costs, which you highlight in your post, are not unbearable to your opponents.

Politics is a chess match that liberals choose to play like football. Then they try to upend the board when they lose because they didn't follow the rules.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:42 AM
 
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You can’t blame Jewish intellectuals being opposed to white ethno-nationalism.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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Neocons are more accurately labeled Neoliberals.

They don't wish to conserve anything in particular, and especially not in the politics-critical social sphere. What they wish to do is counter the anti-war tendency of modern liberals. This imperialism requires free markets. Essentially, they are imperialist liberals.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:44 AM
 
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No, it's clearly racism. Trump and his hardcore sycophants are vile racists.

Everyone wants to tiptoe around the reality of what's happening.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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True or not, that's the political cost for being too extreme on liberal issues and using judges to legislate from the bench. Your opponents take what they can get in terms of perceived effectiveness. Your unbearable costs, which you highlight in your post, are not unbearable to your opponents.

Politics is a chess match that liberals choose to play like football. Then they try to upend the board when they lose because they didn't follow the rules.
We suffered through 8 years of Bush, who started a worldwide recession in 2008 and a disastrous war in Iraq, now we have Trump who just gave corporations trillions of dollars in tax breaks and jacked up our national debt, the same way Bush did when he was in office.

Republicans, of course, are completely content with all of the above. The Dumbing Down of America rolls on….
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