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Old 01-28-2018, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
Don't you guys understand that if everyone pays into the healthcare system, it lowers the cost for all of us and we get better coverage. And please don't tell me how the young don't need it because they are healthy. But what if they get cancer or hit by car or shot in the Las Vegas shooting. You just never know what's going to happen to you at any given moment.


That was the theory....... it didn't work.

Forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions and expecting insurance costs not to skyrocket was a lie so ridiculous that only Democrats would believe it.

We tried to tell you what would happen....

You didn't listen, and now we're all screwed because Dems couldn't leave well enough alone.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:22 PM
 
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Again my issue is forcing Americans to buy health insurance. The government should not be involved. If the ACA is destroyed by people not paying into the system then it was a bad system in the first place. Maybe then the Democrats will come to the table and actually seriously try and fix it. I doubt it!
I never supported the Mandate, but gov't has to be involved in many ways and at many levels with HC. Otherwise the poor, seniors, those with pre-exisiting and many emergencies will not be cared for. America is first world.
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Old 01-28-2018, 05:23 PM
 
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That was the theory....... it didn't work.

Forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions and expecting insurance costs not to skyrocket was a lie so ridiculous that only Democrats would believe it.

We tried to tell you what would happen....

You didn't listen, and now we're all screwed because Dems couldn't leave well enough alone.
They were surely told. And also fell for the big insurance Mandate that would make it all happen.
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Old 01-28-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Yes, I'm one of the people who has been able to purchase health insurance through the ACA. That does nothing to negate the content of my post.
How did you survive prior?
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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That was the theory....... it didn't work.

Forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions and expecting insurance costs not to skyrocket was a lie so ridiculous that only Democrats would believe it.

We tried to tell you what would happen....

You didn't listen, and now we're all screwed because Dems couldn't leave well enough alone.
but..but.but..they were singing their usual



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww

Hence, they simply ignored reality just like every other day of their lives.
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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That was the theory....... it didn't work.

Forcing insurance companies to cover preexisting conditions and expecting insurance costs not to skyrocket was a lie so ridiculous that only Democrats would believe it.

We tried to tell you what would happen....

You didn't listen, and now we're all screwed because Dems couldn't leave well enough alone.
You fail to educate us on 2 + 2 = 4 because, somehow, every other civilized country in the world covers ALL of their population including pre-existing....for 30-40% less money than we spend.

Oh, and they live longer also and have as good stats (infant mortality) - some better.

A lie? Well, then it's a lie that I can climb aboard an aluminum tube in the morning - full of kerosene - and go to all of these places.

In other words, you are living a lie inside your mind. It is one thing and one thing alone - the corporate profit motive - that makes our health care Hell on Earth. Of course, the rich want that money instead of using it for sick people.

But there would be an extra TRILLION per year if we had a decent system and everyone would be covered.

Since it appears you did the math (calling out lies means you really know), how much per person do we need to spend in the USA per year to cover everyone fully and with a decent first world set of health care programs?

$4K
5K
6K
7K
8K
9K
10K
11K

Japan spends around 3K, France about 6K. So what should it cost?
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:48 PM
 
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30% increase? 3 million lose their insurance?

What?

Trump said more people we're going to be covered at a more affordable cost. What happened to that plan?
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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Lie. It has given millions of people access to health insurance who never had it before. And they still have health insurance right now...though the GOP and Trump are trying mightily to take it away from them, and have been since the start.

Because they don't give a damn about Americans and their healthcare. That much is obvious, as they continue to try to kill the ACA off but offer absolutely NOTHING to replace it.
yes it did on the backs of working deplorables. That in and of itself isnt the issue, we dont like that we have to pay a nazi-like ransom if we chose to opt out.

Its still Obamacare as it was signed into law by a President -not- named Trump.
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:03 PM
 
Location: NC
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Since it appears you did the math (calling out lies means you really know), how much per person do we need to spend in the USA per year to cover everyone fully and with a decent first world set of health care programs?

$4K
5K
6K
7K
8K
9K
10K
11K

Japan spends around 3K, France about 6K. So what should it cost?
You sound like you would be more happy in a socialist hellhole country.
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:09 PM
 
Location: NC
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How did you survive prior?


I bought insurance in the open market before my plan was canceled(not ACA compliant or some crap even though I was happy with it) and I was forced to buy a much more expensive plan on the exchange logic be darned.
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