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Old 01-27-2018, 06:39 AM
 
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Wrong again.

Rate of increases slowed down under Obama.
For whom?
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:43 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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First off its Obama care not Trump care. The difference is that you will not be FORCED to buy it. Millions will choose not to purchase health insurance. If premiums go up then so be it. In fact for millions of people a catastrophic plan would be more than fine.

Actually, first off it's Trump's utter failure to make good on his promise to replace Obamacare with something far better immediately upon taking office.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:43 AM
 
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Wrong again.

Rate of increases slowed down under Obama. Look it up. It's a fact with stats and graphs to back it up.

There were no predictions of increases until Trump started yammering about ending the mandate, stopping the subsidies, repealing ACA, ...

Insurance executives were clear that this "uncertainty" was behind their predictions of rate increases.

Yea....OK....so with the OPs 30% that will make it 250% increase over the last 3 years in Alabama....

Sounds like it sure slowed down....
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Obama was your President. We get it. He promised the freebies you are so enamored of.
Uncle Sugar for you and your people. Free phones and free health care. All in exchange for votes. We get it.

We're going back to FreedomCare. Where we take care of the TRULY needy, and the able-bodied get off the porch and provide for themselves like the rest of us.
You're exactly right. Trump has freedom. The rest of us pay for it.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Actually, first off it's Trump's utter failure to make good on his promise to replace Obamacare with something far better immediately upon taking office.
Actually your savior obama stated under his plan, all Americans will be covered (paraphrased)? What happened?
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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First off its Obama care not Trump care. The difference is that you will not be FORCED to buy it. Millions will choose not to purchase health insurance. If premiums go up then so be it. In fact for millions of people a catastrophic plan would be more than fine.
No.

Your guy broke it, your guy owns it.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:46 AM
 
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No.

Your guy broke it, your guy owns it.
It was broke prior to trump taking over...
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:47 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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It's TrumpCare now. You break it, you bought it.

If you are actually a retired cop, you enjoyed decades of decent health insurance paid for by taxpayers.

Apparently, we are still footing the bill or perhaps your wife is. Hard to tell from your post.

As long as insurance companies can't discriminate against those with pre-existing conditions, those with catastrophic insurance should be okay. If they find themselves needing regular insurance coverage, they can always switch.

However, if insurance companies can refuse those with pre-existing conditions, then those with catastrophic coverage will find themselves in a more difficult situation.

If insurance companies are not allowed by law to refuse those with pre-existing conditions, then we all pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those who were coasting along until something came up.
I would correct just one thing.

It's TrumpDon'tCare now.
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Old 01-27-2018, 06:59 AM
 
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"Premiums were going up rapidly: Between 2000 and 2010, average family premiums for employer coverage grew 8 percent per year – a perpetual burden on Americans’ budgets. From 2010 to 2016, that same average has grown at a slower 5 percent a year."

"Hundreds of thousands of people were afraid to change jobs: It’s a phenomenon called “job lock” – people being afraid to leave their corporate jobs and go out on their own because doing so meant walking away from affordable premiums. For some, the risk was even greater; if you had a pre-existing condition, insurance companies could refuse to sell you coverage."

What health care and health insurance was like before Obamacare | Charlotte Observer

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...e-act/9960093/
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Old 01-27-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Obamacare never had any cost controls, that's why it was doomed from the beginning. Libs must miss the $1000 a month premiums and the $8000 deductibles..


lmao
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