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I believe we need a strong immigration policy, but the wall is pure folly. It will never see completion of funded and what will be built will be utterly useless.
Utterly useless? Then why on our border where the good walls have already been erected have they been very effective?
The repubs should run ads with all the dems claiming "But, if it saves just ONE child, it is worth it" when THEY want some useless ill passed over and over and over.
If you are interested in saving lives then put the $20B into healthcare rather than the wall. The wall will be approved in some form in the compromise, I just see it as a ineffective at addressing illegal immigration.
Democrats used to be much closer to republicans on this issue. Just look at Bill Clinton’s statements about illegal aliens. Hell, he even called them “illegal aliens” at the time. Even Obama in his earlier years made stronger statements about stopping illegals.
It makes you wonder what happened between then and now.
"Just look at Bill Clinton’s statements about illegal aliens. Hell, he even called them “illegal aliens” at the time."
So did Obama and Hillary.
"It makes you wonder what happened between then and now"
Easy, repubs have the majority in both the House Senate and White House.
Just like Kerry, "I was for it before I was against it"!
This is true. He has always tried to straddle that line of being a Democrat in a Republican state. A very POOR republican state. Most times he behaves very much like a moderate republican. Not that it's a bad thing, but he is also pandering to his base which are very much Trump supporters.
" A very POOR republican state., which had been run by the dems for DECADES, including KKK Byrd as its Senator.
"Robert C. Byrd, a Democrat, represented the state of West Virginia in Congress for over 57 years, as a Member of the House from the now-defunct 6th District from 1953–1959"
Democrats always had a problem with Martin Luther King's ideology . Instead of looking at the character of people.. they divide us into colors.
Trump is trying to keep out the bad people because of their character. The drug smugglers, the welfare freebee crowd who come here to get what they can free, and the ones who want to kill us. To the democrats it is racist only... if Trump dares to keep out the bad people , it is all racist and the color comes out .. Dems only see colors, not character of the bad people who come here. MS 13 is the example.
Manchin is one who has a level head . I noticed him long ago.
It is safe to assume that anyone who is for the wall is also for e-verify.
If they aren't, they should be.
It is also safe to assume that anyone against e-verify is also against the wall.
So using e-verify as a bargaining chip for the wall just doesn’t work. Agreed.
If you want to use e-verify as a bargaining chip, it would have to be used against DACA. “No DACA unless e-verify” is much more effective than “no wall unless e-verify”.
No Daca unless we also:
- get E verify.
- End Chain Migration (except spouse and child - no siblings or parents)
- End Lottery.
- Evict & Eject ALL immigrants (legal, dreamers or illegal who took any Federal Welfare money - SNAP, Section 8, Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security unless they paid in for the past 20 years or SS Disability. Stop the payments immediately and Evict and Eject. Stop the 150 - 200 Billion Dollar per year madness.
If you are interested in saving lives then put the $20B into healthcare rather than the wall. The wall will be approved in some form in the compromise, I just see it as a ineffective at addressing illegal immigration.
Health care is NOT in the Constitution.
Immigration IS.
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