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Old 01-28-2018, 09:16 PM
 
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The Kurds are fierce warriors and the only honorable ones in this whole Middle East mess.

Instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them, looks like we're going to sell them out again.

Shame on us.
They'll never get what they want. People should come to grips with that. The selling out will always be inevitable.

Though, nations will happily continue to use their existence as a shiv in the side of the nations in which the Kurds live. They act as effective political and military obstacle, which is why they are hated by their host nations.

Their best realistic option would be immigration to an established and peaceful nation. Though, I doubt that will happen except for a minority of them. Eventually, they could end up like the Palestinians once they stop being useful and begin to be annoying to everyone. That's also inevitable.

There are deeper reasons why they are hated by the Arabs and Turks, but that's another discussion.
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:36 PM
 
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No one cares about the Kurds. I really want to spend my time digging up my (and others) posts form a ways back basically predicting the Kurds are just cannon fodder, and the US/West will drop them yet again. Hell, the US did not say anything about Iraq attacking them recently, using US supplied equipment.

Kurd leadership is pretty stupid to think the US or anyone is actually ever going to support them.

I wonder if tensions between Turkey and Russia calmed down a lot because Russia threatened to start arming the hell out of the Kurds, maybe speaking of an alliance between Assad and the Kurds. All of a sudden Turkey and Russia are best friends, lol.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:14 PM
 
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No one cares about the Kurds. I really want to spend my time digging up my (and others) posts form a ways back basically predicting the Kurds are just cannon fodder, and the US/West will drop them yet again. Hell, the US did not say anything about Iraq attacking them recently, using US supplied equipment.

Kurd leadership is pretty stupid to think the US or anyone is actually ever going to support them.

I wonder if tensions between Turkey and Russia calmed down a lot because Russia threatened to start arming the hell out of the Kurds, maybe speaking of an alliance between Assad and the Kurds. All of a sudden Turkey and Russia are best friends, lol.
Turks today are fighting the Kurds on three fronts
Iraq, Syria and Turkey
Turkish planes attack Kurds in Iraq
Kurds are also being attacked in Syria and Kurds are being repressed in Turkey
The Kurds are making alliances so they can get their rights
But they become victims of international politics

In 1979, the Kurds were fighting the Iraqi army and with Iranian support
But after an agreement was reached between Iraq and Iran
The collapse of the Kurdish rapid
Today, the same thing happens with them in Iraq and in Syria
He helped the American Kurds in 2003 and during the extension of the Islamic state
But they did not support the Kurds' desire for independence
The Kurds should benefit from their experiences
And choose their friends who stand with their efforts to establish a state of Kurdistan in the three parts of the Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian
For they are a people worthy of life
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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What "NATO capabilities" are you talking about? How is NATO assisting them?
NATO helps the Turks by providing them with military capabilities
It is known that Turkey after the First World War ended
But gradually regaining strength
Today, it has become a military force through NATO
I think NATO should stop all forms of military support because it violated NATO laws
As well as the peace accords after the end of the First World War
Turkey has also imposed its terrorist ideology in Europe as well
By sending immigrants to Europe and settling
Turkey is fighting the Kurds on three fronts
All supported by NATO
NATO must expel Turkey
Because they have become persecuting peoples
This is enough to expel Turkey from it
All Turkish weapons are weapons and from NATO's arsenal
I think that the Kurds can make it a scrap and a scorpion
Their will and steadfastness
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:27 PM
 
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The Germans are considering halting weapon upgrades and sales.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:52 PM
 
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Originally Posted by mahasn sawresho View Post
Turks today are fighting the Kurds on three fronts
Iraq, Syria and Turkey
Turkish planes attack Kurds in Iraq
Kurds are also being attacked in Syria and Kurds are being repressed in Turkey
The Kurds are making alliances so they can get their rights
But they become victims of international politics

In 1979, the Kurds were fighting the Iraqi army and with Iranian support
But after an agreement was reached between Iraq and Iran
The collapse of the Kurdish rapid
Today, the same thing happens with them in Iraq and in Syria
He helped the American Kurds in 2003 and during the extension of the Islamic state
But they did not support the Kurds' desire for independence
The Kurds should benefit from their experiences
And choose their friends who stand with their efforts to establish a state of Kurdistan in the three parts of the Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian
For they are a people worthy of life
And what friends would that be?
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:25 AM
 
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Thank you for bringing this up!

Yet another worthy story the American progressives are ignoring in favor of complaining about a British advert for children's clothing...

Anyway, the US should just back an independent Kurdistan already. What the hell has Turkey ever done of the US anyway? The Kurds would be a much better ally.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:41 AM
 
Location: USA
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Erdogan and his dream of returning Turkey to it's Ottoman Islamist past will bring Turkey to the status of a 3rd world nation. Turkey was looking pretty good there for a while. We should immediately back out of any funding for Turkey and any arms sales.
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:00 AM
 
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The Kurds are fierce warriors and the only honorable ones in this whole Middle East mess.

Instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them, looks like we're going to sell them out again.

Shame on us.
yes , they do not have a history of religous fanaticism either yet have been deserted countless times down the years by europe and the usa
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:27 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Turkey should not be a part of NATO.
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