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We were booming here in Republican South Carolina under Obama.
Will let you know at the end of this year the Trump effect.
He really hasn't done anything until the tax cut -- I here there will be HUGE expansion to the economy. Hopefully that will help with the deficit. For now it's lots of hopes and optimism and dreams.
Dropping the overburden of the massive regulations, did more than the tax cuts.
Regulations are a bridle on productivity and meeting timelines. Waiting on government.
From the time the people say we need a road, it takes 15-20 years before breaking ground, especially in California. Trump has it down to one year, to speed up the much needed infrastructure.
You simply are not being honest when you make comments like this. It's either willful ignorance, an outright attempt at deception, or possibly a general lack of knowledge where economics is concerned. Either way, trying to credit Obama for our growing economy simply wreaks of desperation. But I can understand. It's hard to admit that the left's earlier predictions of global war, devastated economy, and mass deportations have turned out to be complete and utter lies and false propaganda. But the great thing is, most people in this country don't have their heads buried in the sand deep enough to not see the little "gypsy switch" the left is trying to pull now. Instead of simply acknowledging that our current president is helping our economy, the left has decided to try and send the credit to our former leader. It's a fun game you are playing, but it only works on those who do not think for themselves or simply refuse to see the truth because they are so blinded by hatred. Luckily, those who can be counted in that number grows smaller every day.
It's not a binary choice, economic cycles do not conveniently coincide with elections. 2.06 million jobs were created in 2017, that's the lowest number since 2011- should Trump be blamed for that? Probably not because he was not in office long enough, nor did he pass any legislation that would have influenced job growth during his first year in office. If Trump is not re-elected, the next President probably can't be praised or blamed for the economy during the first year or so of their term.
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BTW, I was just browsing through some threads from late 2009 in an attempt to see if any Obama fans ever started any threads remotely like this, and I came up completely blank. There were some threads noting some economic improvements (stock market starting to rise, etc), but I saw nothing remotely like the ecstatic, cultish, wetting-their-pants threads like this one by any Obama supporters.
Unfortunately, this is the second election of this type I experienced. The first one being the 1991 Louisiana Governors race: David Duke and Edwin Edwards (Nazi sympathizer and what today we call "alt-right" versus a huge crook) - except that given Louisiana's "Open Primary" system, no write-ins allowed. So back when I was a firm Reagan-worshiping Republican, I held my nose and voted for Edwards. Duke's fanbase also had similar cultish fervor. Imagine that, Louisiana was 25 years ahead of times, for once!!!
You simply are not being honest when you make comments like this. It's either willful ignorance, an outright attempt at deception, or possibly a general lack of knowledge where economics is concerned. Either way, trying to credit Obama for our growing economy simply wreaks of desperation. But I can understand. It's hard to admit that the left's earlier predictions of global war, devastated economy, and mass deportations have turned out to be complete and utter lies and false propaganda. But the great thing is, most people in this country don't have their heads buried in the sand deep enough to not see the little "gypsy switch" the left is trying to pull now. Instead of simply acknowledging that our current president is helping our economy, the left has decided to try and send the credit to our former leader. It's a fun game you are playing, but it only works on those who do not think for themselves or simply refuse to see the truth because they are so blinded by hatred. Luckily, those who can be counted in that number grows smaller every day.
I think Trump can take some credit for the stock market. All his promises of deregulation has somewhat created a stock bubble. The actual economy though, GDP (the best indicator) has remained steady or even slowed a little compared with the last year of Obama.
Dropping the overburden of the massive regulations, did more than the tax cuts.
Sure, let's mortgage our environment for some temporary corporate profits. See China for how well that works. They're now going green, and we're going to make America great by being like China was 20 years ago. Real smart.
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From the time the people say we need a road, it takes 15-20 years before breaking ground, especially in California. Trump has it down to one year, to speed up the much needed infrastructure.
What roads. Got any specifics? And how's that wall coming?
Dropping the overburden of the massive regulations, did more than the tax cuts. Regulations are a bridle on productivity and meeting timelines. Waiting on government.
From the time the people say we need a road, it takes 15-20 years before breaking ground, especially in California. Trump has it down to one year, to speed up the much needed infrastructure.
Give me a break...Construction of a highway takes anywhere between two and 10 years, regulatory processes are usually a small part of the project, most time is spent moving utilities, relocating homes and businesses or acquiring them through eminent domain. There is the project design, acquisition of funding and once construction starts there are usually delays due to weather. Nevada has far fewer regulations than California but it still cost 400 million dollars and took 9 years to build a 1725 foot bridge in Washoe Valley.
BTW, I was just browsing through some threads from late 2009 in an attempt to see if any Obama fans ever started any threads remotely like this, and I came up completely blank. There were some threads noting some economic improvements (stock market starting to rise, etc), but I saw nothing remotely like the ecstatic, cultish, wetting-their-pants threads like this one by any Obama supporters.
Honestly, I think it's the "small group think" thing going on here. If you look at the posters, it's probably a dozen or so who are the consistent ones, which for all we know, could be alt-accounts of a few individual posters.
You get users like phma and T-310 who don't seem to be able to step back and critically think about anything that's posted. You can't tell me that you can actually process everything that Trump has done and be 100% on board with everything. As someone who's values fall very blue, I'll personally admit there have been a few things (or parts of things) that will benefit the American public. But there's also been a ton more that hurt the people (excluding corporations, of course) too.
There's also the potential for a needed re-affirmation in their vote or beliefs. Perhaps in real life, these posters aren't actually as "red" as they seem to post, but they (like Trump himself) are insecure with their ideology thus need the re-affirmation of others.
Also, Obama wasn't nearly as controversial of a political figure. The only long lasting thing I see that he will be remembered for is the ACA, which will hopefully be a moot point in the future when we finally adopt a single payer health system.
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