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Old 01-29-2018, 12:14 PM
 
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I have spent exactly zero minutes looking at pimps but Obama works out daily and has practically no body fat. Trump rides a golf cart when other world leaders walk and stuffs cheeseburgers in his mouth while lying in bed. I'll take Obama's energetic walk any day of the week.
Agreed...but Obama having smoked cigarettes may come back to bite him later in life.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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Agreed...but Obama having smoked cigarettes may come back to bite him later in life.
Trump shoving cheeseburgers in his mouth every night while lying in bed may not help his arteries. Watching him bend over to pick up a golf ball is a painful sight to behold. And unfortunately, it's that bloated, overstuffed face that will be delivering the SOTU.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Seriously? The GOP creates a tax plan that not only do they exclude Democrats from participating, they won't even give them time to read the bill before the vote. Chuck Schumer proposed on national TV that the weekend be given so Democrats could actually read the 400+ page bill filled with scribbles and was told no on national TV. That is indisputable.

Twelve Republicans voted AGAINST the tax bill because they are trying to save their seats in blue states where the GOP targeted SALT. That won't help them, those Republicans should be kicked to the curb hard in the midterms because even if they voted against it, their role as Republicans allowed it to happen.

The bill made business tax cuts permanent and personal tax cuts temporary. This is 100% a GOP tax bill and anything that happens as a result is 100% on the GOP. The upcoming tax increase designed in the bill is owned by Republicans who not only excluded Democrats in the design of the bill, they wouldn't even give them time to read it before the vote.

Trump is going to say this tax bill is awesome and he is the greatest president ever because he says it every hour. The man can't go five minutes without massaging his own ego. The GOP owns the upcoming tax increase.
Cute story. Too bad it is lacking in facts. Every Democratic senator had the opportunity to vote in favor of the middle class tax cut. And every single one chose not to, instead voting against it (I'm not sure if any abstained). And due to senate rules-60 votes are required to make the cuts permanent. All republican Senators voted for the bill-zero Dems did. If the law is not made permanent in the future-the Dems own the tax increase! Unless of course the GOP gets 60 seats in the senate and they become irrelevant. Cute try at deflecting to the House vote. Results there matter a lot less since a simple majority is required to pass the (permanent) bill. Which, of course the GOP did do.

Why didn't Dem senators just pass the bill to see what was in it? Seems like the way they work.

You have to remember-the public has figured out that Democrats and the MSM are lying to them. Those lies aren't being accepted as blindly and unquestioningly as they used to be. It's really sad to see the Democrats waging war on working, middle class Americans. I HOPE Trump hammers this point at the SOTU. As well as the shutdown, the "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" and "you'll save $2500 a year on health insurance" lies. After this long most people have seen what a disaster Obamacare is.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Cute story. Too bad it is lacking in facts. Every Democratic senator had the opportunity to vote in favor of the middle class tax cut. And due to senate rules-60 votes are required to make the cuts permanent. All republican Senators voted for the bill-zero Dems did. If the law is not made permanent in the future-the Dems own the tax increase! Unless of course the GOP gets 60 seats in the senate and they become irrelevant. Cute try at deflecting to the House vote. Results there matter a lot less since a simple majority is required to pass the (permanent) bill.

Why didn't Dem senators just pass the bill to see what was in it? Seems like the way they work.
Nope, it's just a GOP lie that Democrats worked that way - and a total mischaracterization of what Nancy Pelosi said, although pointing that out doesn't stop the lies. They had a months long open process on the ACA with hundreds of amendments offered by the GOP. The GOP lied about that, while actually keeping the bill a secret that Democrats only got to see a few hours before the vote.
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Old 01-29-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Cute story. Too bad it is lacking in facts. Every Democratic senator had the opportunity to vote in favor of the middle class tax cut. And due to senate rules-60 votes are required to make the cuts permanent. All republican Senators voted for the bill-zero Dems did. If the law is not made permanent in the future-the Dems own the tax increase! Unless of course the GOP gets 60 seats in the senate and they become irrelevant. Cute try at deflecting to the House vote. Results there matter a lot less since a simple majority is required to pass the (permanent) bill.

Why didn't Dem senators just pass the bill to see what was in it? Seems like the way they work.

You have to remember-the public has figured out that Democrats and the MSM are lying to them. Those lies aren't being accepted as blindly and unquestioningly as they used to be.
The Democrats had a chance to vote on a bill they were not even given time to read. They were given a 400+ page bill filled with scribbles and told no when requesting time to read it. That is a FACT. The GOP owns that bill completely, they own the $1.4 TRILLION deficit increase, they own whatever happens when the tax cuts end, the GOP owns it. The GOP controls all three branches of government and the GOP wrote the entire bill with the help of over 6000 lobbyists. In fact, the lobbyists saw the tax bill before Democrats saw it. That is what the GOP has done and there is nothing Trump can say at the SOTU that will change that.

Analysis: More than 6,000 lobbyists have worked on taxes in 2017 | TheHill
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I absolutely believe Trump is racist. Trump ran on calling Obama a Muslim Kenyan and saying white supremacists are good people. He has the support of white supremacist Richard Spencer. Trump will find ways in the SOTU to give the Richard Spencers a wink and a nod, he always does.
I gave you the transcript, for that chaotic press conference. I know it's a bit hard to follow because the reporters were rude and continually interrupting the president, but nowhere was Trump "saying white supremacists are good people."

There were many different groups at that Charlotte civil war memorial protest. They had historians who were good people, and all they wanted was to preserve historic monuments. They had good people protesting to have the statues removed.

But they also had neo-Nazis and the KKK, and the left-wing ANTIFA anarchists, all of which had their share of bad people, who just wanted to intimidate, to create trouble, and engage in violence.


You just have you prejudiced mind made up that Trump is a racist. Many people like you just look at the world thru racist-colored glasses, and think ninety percent or more of all Republicans are racists.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Considering Trump supporters are obsessed with saying whites are being persecuted, I apply it how I anticipate they will use it and they definitely are obsessed with the idea that the white man is being persecuted because one half black man was elected president. Trump still hasn't recovered.

And I have sufficient knowledge about Trump, what he has done, what he will say he has done, how he speaks and ridicules over half the country because he can't stand that he is a minority elected president to know I will definitely be disgusted by his SOTU speech. The man went on a multi-city bragging tour after he was elected so he could regale election night over and over. The man never ever "moved to the middle", he is a right wing president that has hired his family, charges the the Secret Service to use the elevators to protect his ridiculous family, golfs every weekend and stuffs his face with burgers every night while tweeting Fox News stories as if they came from his own head. There's no mystery to solve.
That's some amazing spin. No one is buying it.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:02 PM
 
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The Democrats had a chance to vote on a bill they were not even given time to read.

Analysis: More than 6,000 lobbyists have worked on taxes in 2017 | TheHill
You mean like the ACA...you have to vote for it to find out what's in it? LOL
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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Trump shoving cheeseburgers in his mouth every night while lying in bed may not help his arteries. Watching him bend over to pick up a golf ball is a painful sight to behold. And unfortunately, it's that bloated, overstuffed face that will be delivering the SOTU.
Dear. It's easy.

Don't watch if it causes you such distress. (and we all know the real reasons why)

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Old 01-29-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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Trump shoving cheeseburgers in his mouth every night while lying in bed may not help his arteries. Watching him bend over to pick up a golf ball is a painful sight to behold. And unfortunately, it's that bloated, overstuffed face that will be delivering the SOTU.
But I'll bet you loved bloated Bill Clinton...SNL even did skits about him jogging...to a burger joint and eating everyones food!

I'll bet you liked Hillary and her Dr Evil/Dr Zaius outfits.

I'll bet you were excited at the notion that bloated bloviator Oprah might run.
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