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I think the thing that the Trump haters are loosing sight over is that this goes beyond Trump or anything he may or may not have done. This is about corruption in the FBI and DOJ. How would you like it if a loved one was railroaded or set up for a crime they didn't commit? That's corruption. When things aren't honest or on the up and up. Why are the Demos so against exposing this travesty of justice? I can't imagine.
It a broad (and incorrect) Brush to lump FBI/DOJ in a "corruption" statement.
ALL of the people identified so far that were involved in what we know so far - were in ONE group in both the FBI and DOJ, with the exception of James Comey as head of the FBI, who was getting his advise from the single group ...... Counter Intelligence-National Security.
The bad apples were in a box in a large barrel - that doesn't mean the entire barrel became rotten from the rot.
I also want to see the rebuttal. That the committee should choose to release one and not the other is disturbing.
I want to see both also - I want to see the evidence held by FBI & DOJ (and others) that is behind the Nunes Memo. As for the Schiff Memo - Schiff wouldn't even allow his own Committee to read it before he insisted they vote to Release it. Schiff claims it's based on Classified Material and won't all the Intel Committee to even see what it is BEFORE they vote on it. THAT is "disturbing".
Two senior FBI officials have now reviewed a controversial Republican staff memo alleging abuses of government surveillance programs during the 2016 presidential campaign, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News – adding that the officials “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”
The two officials – one from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and the other from the legal division – followed up after an initial review of the memo during a rare Sunday trip to Capitol Hill by FBI Director Christopher Wray.
You would think Carter Page would be in the federal pen, if you listen to you guys. Yet, it is Manafort and Flynn, with indictments for using their 1st amendment, lying to the FBI. According to the Constitutions 1st amendment, lying cannot be a crime.
omg...of course lying can be a crime, if you lie under oath, or to an official or a court it's called perjury
Interesting Time for this "Breaking News" about a "New Memo" (written by a Clinton activist "Journalist") & handed over to the FBI in October 2016 by Fusion GPS to validate their own dossier. Big Breaking News story the morning after the House Voted to declassify the Nunes Memo.
The second memo was written by Cody Shearer, a controversial political activist and former journalist who was close to the Clinton White House in the 1990s.
Unlike Steele, Shearer does not have a background in espionage, and his memo was initially viewed with scepticism, not least because he had shared it with select media organisations before the election.
The Shearer memo was provided to the FBI in October 2016.
It was handed to them by Steele – who had been given it by an American contact – after the FBI requested the former MI6 agent provide any documents or evidence that could be useful in its investigation, according to multiple sources.
The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis and the Cincinnati General Hospital Radiation Study were classified Top Secret, too, yet nothing in those studies were even remotely related to National Security.
National Embarrassment, yes; National Security, no.
The only possible item in FISA warrant that would even be remotely related to National Security would be the actual source of the data/information on which the warrant application is based: Signal Intelligence, Electronic Intelligence, or Human Intelligence. Generally, neither the Senate nor House Intelligence Committees and Armed Forces Committees are provided with sources, and often that includes Satellite Imagery, although I do remember an instance when a staff member for a Representative on the House Armed Forces Committee leaked a satellite photo of a US nuclear weapons movement captured by one of our own surveillance satellites in 1986 at Hahn Air Base in Germany.
I am well aware of that study, we have come a long but never perfect. There are plenty of ways to expose a source indirectly, place, time or the individuals or circumstances. Besides they just released the information to the house, the normal procedure would be for the house to raise the issue directly with them and address the issue.
I'm guessing (because nobody really knows what is in the Nunes Memo except for those who have read it) that Wray wasn't allowed to appear before the Intel Committee because they have Oversight over Wray and the FBI, not the other way around. The vote was to "declassify" the memo that Wray viewed on Sunday and send it to the President for review - Wray, DOJ, NSA ..... all of the relevant parties will have 5 days to make their case for either release or not.
As for releasing the Memo to Senator Burr - the House Intel committee voted to make it available to ALL House member only. Schiff and all the Democrats on the Committee voted against making the information available to House Members. They wanted the information and the Memo squashed.
IF the House made it available to Senator Burr - they would have to make it available to ALL Senators.
House Members who viewed the Nunes Memo had to sign paperwork that made it plain that IF they leaked what was in the Memo - it was a Federal Crime, a Felony offense.
No point in adding the Senate to the mix at that point and more difficult to keep a lid on Classified material.
The Senate has several investigations in the works - they are working on a different aspect of the issue.
Odds appear great that the Nunes Memo is not just about the 1,000 pages that the DOJ/FBI made available to 2 Majority/2 Minority members to read and make notes on. There are at least 6 Investigation by my count going on - the House Select Intelligence Committee is just one of the 6. I'm not even counting the Mueller Special Counsel in that 6.
So they cannot release the memo to the senate because that would be too many but they had no issue releasing it to a few hundred house members, 100 more is too many? Burr has requested the memo but was refused, what's the harm after all we want transparency. They could also provide it to the FBI so they could address the issues in the memo, that doesn't change one thing in the memo and it can still be released to the public if they choose.
If the items in this memo were so critical why didn't Nunes prepare the memo himself rather than rely on others. Obviously they are more interested in creating a controversy where we will never really know the truth. They can say what they want in the memo and it can never be rebutted except in general terms by those with clearance to view the underlying documents.
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