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Old 02-10-2018, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Obama began this Russian collusion gig back in 2015 and chose not to do anything about it. He should be questioned by the FBI.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:17 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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His lack of enforcement violates the Constitution, specifically Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution which requires the President to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.”

This clause, known as the Take Care Clause, requires the President to enforce all constitutionally valid Acts of Congress, regardless of his own Administration’s view of their wisdom or policy. The clause imposes a duty on the President; it does not confer a discretionary power. The Take Care Clause is a limit on the Vesting Clause’s grant to the President of “the executive power.”

BTW - The above clause explanation is a direct quote from the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

Any rebuttals or logic from anyone who thinks Trump is NOT violating the Constitution?

Trump is a traitor to the American people and is beholden to Putin's regime. It's just that simple folks.
Considering Trump's original contention that the law itself was unconstitutional (for which a good argument can be made), the claim that he violated the Take Care Clause is doubtful. The left-wing uproar over the alleged violation of this clause is quite hypocritical, as there is a much stronger argument that his predecessor's EOs on immigration were in violation of this same clause. Unlike in the case of Trump, I don't see how you can argue that Obama had any bona fide doubts about the constitutionality of particular laws.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I think that his claim of unconstitutional is unfounded.

I think he has a serious problem which Putin holds over him.

That would be the ability to blackmail him. Trump was never properly vetted during the campaign by the party, people and the press.

Refusing to show your background information to the people who you want to be hired by is a red flag.

2 many ignored that simple issue.
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:31 AM
 
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The idea that Trump would have a clue about constitutionality is ridiculous on the face of it.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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Fair warning y'all: I informed PETA that you guys are still beating this dead horse.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:27 AM
 
Location: United States
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I think that his claim of unconstitutional is unfounded.

I think he has a serious problem which Putin holds over him.

That would be the ability to blackmail him. Trump was never properly vetted during the campaign by the party, people and the press.

Refusing to show your background information to the people who you want to be hired by is a red flag.

2 many ignored that simple issue.
What happened to the separation of powers that you dems were talking about.

The executive branch decides foreign policy, not congress.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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What is unconstitutional is Trump's refusal to enforce legislation voted on by Congress.

If he has a problem with it, he needs to take it to the Supreme Court.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:01 AM
 
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What is unconstitutional is Trump's refusal to enforce legislation voted on by Congress.

If he has a problem with it, he needs to take it to the Supreme Court.
Trump isn't hysterically screaming "constitutional crisis"... ball's in your court.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: United States
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What is unconstitutional is Trump's refusal to enforce legislation voted on by Congress.

If he has a problem with it, he needs to take it to the Supreme Court.

He doesn't have to take it to the Supreme Court, the president decides foreign policy, and he has decided not to enforce these sanctions.
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:14 AM
 
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He doesn't have to take it to the Supreme Court, the president decides foreign policy, and he has decided not to enforce these sanctions.
That's not entirely accurate... Trump is enforcing all existing sanctions, he chose on the 29th not to impose any new sanctions. (which is well within his purview)
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