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Old 01-30-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The 10th Amendment has been stomped on for way too long.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:48 PM
 
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Bring it. Its long past due
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The 10th Amendment has been stomped on for way too long.
The traditional conservative position on marijuana i.e. pro national prohibition, is out of step with the conservative platform on other issues. You can't champion states rights on things like guns, abortion, minimum wage, and discrimination while promoting national prohibition on cannabis. Unfortunately the religious right and the drive to legislate morality and social norms is a huge part of the GOP base. That is why marijuana remains illegal.

If we want to see legal weed, the Southern Baptist Convention will need to back off its hard prohibitionist stance. Until that happens, we will never see it.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:17 AM
 
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The traditional conservative position on marijuana i.e. pro national prohibition, is out of step with the conservative platform on other issues. You can't champion states rights on things like guns, abortion, minimum wage, and discrimination while promoting national prohibition on cannabis. Unfortunately the religious right and the drive to legislate morality and social norms is a huge part of the GOP base. That is why marijuana remains illegal.

If we want to see legal weed, the Southern Baptist Convention will need to back off its hard prohibitionist stance. Until that happens, we will never see it.
trying to legislate morality is not a party thing, even under Obama, no great strides were made in legalizing marijuana on the federal level, it was under Obama that some of the toughest drug laws went into effect.

Besides that, I doubt the southern Baptists support abortion, but that has remained legal for many years now, despite all their actions, so why would marijuana be any different?
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:23 AM
 
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I thought slavery was the gateway for states rights. And it was slammed shut 150 years ago.

This is the problem with states rights. Everyone criticizes them except when they want something the Feds prohibit: Drugs, illegal immigration. Then they think states rights are the Holy Grail.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:56 AM
 
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I thought slavery was the gateway for states rights. And it was slammed shut 150 years ago.

This is the problem with states rights. Everyone criticizes them except when they want something the Feds prohibit: Drugs, illegal immigration. Then they think states rights are the Holy Grail.
According to the constitution, any right not specifically given to the federal government belongs to the states. The federal government conveniently ignores that.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:54 AM
 
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I'd say legalize it on the federal level and let states decide whether they want it legal or not.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:57 AM
 
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According to the constitution, any right not specifically given to the federal government belongs to the states. The federal government conveniently ignores that.
It's a bit late to hope for the 10th Amendment. None of the Bill of Rights has survived 250 years intact.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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The traditional conservative position on marijuana i.e. pro national prohibition, is out of step with the conservative platform on other issues. You can't champion states rights on things like guns, abortion, minimum wage, and discrimination while promoting national prohibition on cannabis. Unfortunately the religious right and the drive to legislate morality and social norms is a huge part of the GOP base. That is why marijuana remains illegal.

If we want to see legal weed, the Southern Baptist Convention will need to back off its hard prohibitionist stance. Until that happens, we will never see it.
My flip answer is that the next D Congress will fix it.

But the fact is that the next Congress likely will fix it, D or R. It's coming to a head, and a (bare) majority of registered Rs now think that marijuana should at least be decriminalized. We're very close, I think.

I also think we can expect to see a last-minute enforcement frenzy on the part of some federal prosecutors, now that they've been given the green light by Sessions. I think it will be interesting to see which states this occurs. For instance, I think federal prosecutors in Colorado won't bite - they can read the political tea leaves, and are not likely to invest a lot of time and energy in a prosecution that will likely have to be dropped.
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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Congress ought to just remove cannabis from the federal drug schedule.
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