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Old 02-02-2018, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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If indeed, as some have speculated, Nunes worked on the memo with Trump, or at least consulted him about it, I actually wonder if that could add to the obstruction case against Trump. If this whole memo thing was designed to give Trump an excuse to fire Rosenstein, and then replace him with someone willing to fire Mueller, seems to me not much different than firing Comey. It would be just another part of Trump's scheme to try to block the investigation against him. Which, of course, is obstruction of justice.

I'd laugh if this whole memo thing completely backfired.
Yep. The gang who couldn't shoot straight---or think straight. Led by the modern day incarnation of a composite of William Clarke Quantrill* and Black Bart (memos instead of poems)---Devilheart DumDum Devin Nunes. Doesn't matter if you hit your target as long as you shoot up everything that moves. Makes it harder for the good guys to come along and sort out what's what

*leader of the best-known of the pro-Confederate partisan guerrillas (also known as "bushwhackers") who fought in the American Civil War

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Do you know how crazy your post is? Talk about a stretch.
Only if you live in upside down, inside out, backward, skewed Russian Trumpworld.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:16 PM
 
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Everybody should care about the memo.
You don’t get to dictate what matters to others.

Unfortunately it appears most people see the memo for what it is.

Useless.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:24 PM
 
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Interesting additional info to further describe what the memo reveals.

In the HPSCI outline it specifically notes the targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page was NOT a FISA Title VII search request. Title VII is FISA(702), the incidental collection of U.S. person information as it relates to National Security or Counterintelligence operations targeting foreign individuals.

The FISA ‘warrant’ request, against Carter Page, was made October 21st, 2016, under Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Meaning the surveillance application was specifically stating, to the court, the U.S. individual was likely an actual agent of a foreign government, ie. “a spy.”


So we are talking Title 7 vs. Title 1 authority.

When Title 1 is the controlling rule, it assumes the suspect is a spy... and with that, it allows the surveillance to widen even further.

The FBI were not targeting Page incidentally as an outcome of foreign intelligence collection; the FBI was targeting Carter Page directly. AND as such they carried full surveillance authority upon all of this activities, interactions, communications and contacts therein.

Because of this direct approach, any group, organization or entity who came in contact with U.S. Person Carter Page was then open for ancillary review and FBI investigation. Those who engaged in contact with Carter Page became subject to surveillance and searches in the same manner as if Page was an actual foreign agent.


In other words, since Page was involved in the Trump campaign... the campaign could be subject to surveillance as well under Title 1 authority. If their goal was to spy on Trump, this makes perfect sense since it gave them the latitude to go beyond wiretapping Page alone.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:30 PM
 
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The memo is just, and only that. A memo written by the GOP and their opinions. I can write a memo and accuse my husband of all kinds of things, that doesn't make them true.
And there was no proof of collusion between Trump & Russia, not even a memo...but you all ran with that for over a year.

Now come to find out it was the dems & the FBI in collusion with Russia...all of a sudden "nothing's true", it's just a little old memo!


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Old 02-02-2018, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Devin Nunes, the congressman who authored a disputed memo alleging improper surveillance of Trump associates by the FBI and the Department of Justice, admitted he didn't view the underlying intelligence on which he based the memo.

Nunes interview on Fox News Friday.
Devin Nunes, the congressman who authored a disputed memo alleging improper surveillance of Trump associates by the FBI and the Department of Justice, admitted he didn't view the underlying intelligence on which he based the memo.

Devin Nunes admits he didn't see underlying intel he based his memo on - Business Insider

Wow: If he never read the basis for the memo what is it based on? Trump?
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:34 PM
 
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You don’t get to dictate what matters to others.

Unfortunately it appears most people see the memo for what it is.

Useless.
Yeah...Russian collusion with the dems.

But it's not a big deal when your ilk are the ones that can actually be linked to colluding with the Russians.

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Old 02-02-2018, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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And there was no proof of collusion between Trump & Russia, not even a memo...but you all ran with that for over a year.

Now come to find out it was the dems & the FBI in collusion with Russia...all of a sudden "nothing's true", it's just a little old memo!


Just what did you come to find out?
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:37 PM
 
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not sure I can help you any more than many here have done.
so, given the opportunity you can't support your point.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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And there was no proof of collusion between Trump & Russia, not even a memo...but you all ran with that for over a year.

Now come to find out it was the dems & the FBI in collusion with Russia...all of a sudden "nothing's true", it's just a little old memo!



Who is "you all"?

Never said nothings true. None of your post really makes much sense.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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Russia did mettle in the election to help Clinton cheat and win. She paid a Russian spy to create a fake document that was used to obtained illegal spying on Trump.

Mueller has spent millions and 1 year on this and found zero evidence. Even McCabe now says their never was any evidence.

Mueller is part of this problem and his buddy Comey committed treason, obstruction of justice etc.

If anything Obama, Comey, Clinton, Rice, Lynch etc are all guilty of treason, obstruction, spying on Americans, mettling in our elections and much more.

The entire Russia joke on Trump is zero, the entire Russia thing was being done by the democrats period.
Creative Writing 1. Fail- Lack of originality and substance. Try an ethical writing and a logic class .
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