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Old 02-04-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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But that needed to be disclosed.
Are we sure that it was not disclosed?
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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....All conspiracy theories seem to involve a SECRET CABAL of some kind.
You confuse "secret" with "classified".

There was no secret.

The memo was "classified". Totally different. Democrats fought tooth and nail to stop the memo from being declassified & released.

Apparently Obama & his henchmen used the process to hide a lot of their dirty deeds.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:57 PM
 
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Are we sure that it was not disclosed?
We weren't there, so technically, we can't be sure of anything.

I heard it was not disclosed. /shrug
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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Except that there was no such thing.
Bah, doesn't matter. The echo chamber says it's so therefor it MUST be true...
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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Many GOP keep speaking of the dossier as if it was fake just because the opposition paid for it......
It was opposition research. i.e. hearsay.

It was never adjudicated in a court of law where the accused could respond to any of it. That IS the point. That IS how Obama got away with it.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:02 PM
 
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We weren't there, so technically, we can't be sure of anything.

I heard it was not disclosed. /shrug
Until such a time as the application for and the FISA warrant itself are released to the public we won't know for seen with our own eyes dead certain.

Thankfully there's precedent for such documents being released, I fully expect for it to happen at this point...
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Until such a time as the application for and the FISA warrant itself are released to the public we won't know for seen with our own eyes dead certain.

Thankfully there's precedent for such documents being released, I fully expect for it to happen at this point...
I wouldn't expect it for years. But time will tell.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:13 PM
 
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But that needed to be disclosed.
Had the intelligence been used for a FISA against Trump or a member of his team, it may have been relevant and should have been disclosed.

But we are not discussing that are we?

We are discussing a FISA against someone who was no longer a member of Trump's team.

Are you saying every former member of Trump's organizations can't be prosecuted?
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:15 PM
 
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Had the intelligence been used for a FISA against Trump or a member of his team, it may have been relevant and should have been disclosed.

But we are not discussing that are we?

We are discussing a FISA against someone who was no longer a member of Trump's team.

Are you saying every former member of Trump's organizations can't be prosecuted?

I'm saying nothing of the sort, and I can't figure out how you made that leap.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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This is just the first step in providing that proof to the public. There is a puzzle that is being put together out in the open for all to see
When the corners keep getting cut to make those puzzle pieces fit, the picture that emerges is not going to be either complete or as you hope. Just a distorted, dishonest jumble. Par for the Trumpian course.
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