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Suppose we take the number of people at State as 70,000. This comes from the book HRC about Hillary's tenure at State, by Allen and Parnes, so I believe it is not inaccurate.
US population in 1800 was 5.3 million so population has grown by a factor of 61. The number of people at state as grown by a factor of 7778.
And? As has been pointed out-we had NINE employees. no overseas embassies etc.
The world is more complex then 1800. This is just a dumb thread.
Hey! How big was the FCC back then?
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As for Benghazi, the real problem for Hillary was not the spending on security, but her whole modus operandi. As is pointed out in HRC, Hilllary pursued a deliberate policy of having state dept people on the ground in the world's most dangerous places. It was all her pet theory of 'smart power' that was developed by a guy named Joseph Nye from the Bill Clinton admin.
Moreover, as pointed out in the book Stonewalled by Sharyl Attkisson, there was plenty of military/security response available--they just were not allowed to respond until way too late. Also if I recall from '13 hours,' the guys from the CIA annex at Benghazi actually had to disobey orders when they finally responded. The CIA team leader, known only as 'Bob' did not want them to go. They went anyway, and two of them were killed.
So you're going to just make arguments from hit piece books? You (like them) will ignore that they asked for more funding for security?
Sorry but Benghazi is just nonsense. Im not even going to argue that idiocy with you-we're talking about funding. If you want a Benghazi thread go make one.
US population in 1800: 5.3 million
US population in 2010: 309.3 million
US diplomatic missions in first decade of 1800: a handful, including London, Liverpool, Paris, Amsterdam, Calcutta, Tangier
US diplomatic missions today: 307
US foreign trade interests in 1801: a little
US foreign trade interests today: a lot
I hear there are a lot more computer technicians and a lot less scribes, too!
US involvement overseas today: way, way too much. I personally know even many liberals who would agree with that. I could be wrong, but I don't think the Dept of state has much to do with trade. That is handled by other entities.
And? As has been pointed out-we had NINE employees. no overseas embassies etc.
The world is more complex then 1800. This is just a dumb thread.
Hey! How big was the FCC back then?
So you're going to just make arguments from hit piece books? You (like them) will ignore that they asked for more funding for security?
Sorry but Benghazi is just nonsense. Im not even going to argue that idiocy with you-we're talking about funding. If you want a Benghazi thread go make one.
Huh? You were the one who first brought up Benghazi. Did you not want a reply to your comment?
So, how many positions should there be? What positions would you cut, and why? And, there needs to be a reason beyond: "government is too big, and needs to be smaller."
We have a much higher population, a much more complicated and dangerous world too. I mean we have multiple countries with weapons that could wipe out entire cities or countries at a time. We can no longer pretend that the ocean can protect us as it did 100 years ago.
Suppose we take the number of people at State as 70,000. This comes from the book HRC about Hillary's tenure at State, by Allen and Parnes, so I believe it is not inaccurate.
US population in 1800 was 5.3 million so population has grown by a factor of 61. The number of people at state as grown by a factor of 7778.
Is your implication that the only difference or variable between 1800 and now is population?
I'm not arguing that 30k is the right number... But that's also the point. This is a meaningless discussion without the proper context.
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