Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:38 AM
 
4,798 posts, read 3,491,059 times
Reputation: 2301

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
Never seen a bill? Really? So you never, ever paid into it? Strange how your experience is different than others in Norway.

"In Norway on an average income we pay around 28-32%. All food items are taxed 14% except essentials and all other items are taxed 25%. 80% of petrol price is tax. Our taxes are so high because the government ‘health’ taxes us – the more you earn the more ‘health tax’ you pay no matter how healthy you are. I think a lot of Norwegians would just prefer to pay the US$500 a month rather than the extra ‘health’ tax, it would be a lot cheaper."

"Norway is one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world with a total tax burden of roughly 45% of GDP– almost 4x Hong Kong and nearly twice the US. VAT here is a whopping 25%. Personal income tax rates border 55%. Corporate profits tax ranges from 28% to as high as 78%."

But it's free, right?
Right on. No its not free. People are frickin naive to think anyone company is just going to give you stuff/service for free.
Seems many on this forum dont understand economics or givernments.

 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:44 AM
 
22,626 posts, read 24,477,017 times
Reputation: 20279
Actual cost to the hospital for Brittany's ER visit = $1000.

Billing to Brittany/Brittany's insurance. = $12,000.


Or something like that...I would love to see a breakdown of the bill.

Last edited by tickyul; 02-03-2018 at 12:01 PM..
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Houston
26,979 posts, read 15,843,564 times
Reputation: 11259
Quote:
Originally Posted by Northman83 View Post
I got electricity going through my heart, from my left arm and out the right arm, 3 years back.

Called my doctor, 10 min later I took an EKG at his office, 30 min later I was at the ER for a full check up and spent the night in the heart ward.

Was checked in the morning, everything was OK. Walked down the stairs and said bye to the personal at the entrance and walked out.


Never seen a bill.


Thats healthcare in Norway.
You pay taxes. There is no free lunch. My wife has had 400k worth of medical care in the last six months. Yes I got stuck with 10k but I can buy a six pack of beer for six bucks.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
63,919 posts, read 46,593,379 times
Reputation: 20674
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve40th View Post
Insurance and Hospitals are for profit, fact.
Get over it. The fix is not going to happen any time soon for people wanting free healthcare..
But, ovarian cysts are extremely painful. Some say it can be similar to colitis or appendicitis pain. Its best to go to ER unless you are so positive what it is and your PCM can see you and drain them. Pain meds work, but not every one has morphine or Oxy on hand, contrary to popular belief.
Most US hospitals qualify for a Not for Prifit status and generally do not pay Federal, State of Municipal taxes.

Being a NFP, does not mean a hospital cannot profit. Some earn $ hundreds of million in profit, each year. What they can't do is use those profits to pay dividends.

Instead, profits are used to repair/ replace stuff, expand, pay for research, community outreach and more.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Boston
20,007 posts, read 8,900,951 times
Reputation: 18583
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve40th View Post
Maybe companies can follow the TRICARE/Military pay route. Pay you very low for your services and then provide, if you survive to retirement, low cost health insurance for life.
Joke about it, laugh about it, but, it is real. The bean counters know a extremely low percentage of people will stay with the military and retire. But, you are still paying them nothing for the potential life threatening situations some endure daily. Hell, you write a will at 17, think about it.
So, instead of a figure job at Mccorporation, take it down to 25% of that and stick it out with said corporation for 20 to 30 years, and get McHealth for life with very very low rates and co pays. See how companies will look at this.
Do you realize that at age 65 Medicare by law becomes your primary insurance? Doesn't sound like it
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:53 AM
 
6,464 posts, read 8,152,318 times
Reputation: 5505
Quote:
Originally Posted by whogo View Post
You pay taxes. There is no free lunch. My wife has had 400k worth of medical care in the last six months. Yes I got stuck with 10k but I can buy a six pack of beer for six bucks.
You can buy a lot of beer for that in Europe, even in Norway.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Boston
20,007 posts, read 8,900,951 times
Reputation: 18583
Quote:
Originally Posted by John1960 View Post
Brittany Cloyd was doubled over in pain when she arrived at Frankfort Regional Medical Center’s emergency room on July 21, 2017.

“They got me a wheelchair and wheeled me back to a room immediately,” said Cloyd, 27, who lives in Kentucky.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-inappropriate
Brittany should have called her primary care physician before going to the hospital. Were not getting the whole story here.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 11:56 AM
 
7,019 posts, read 3,725,117 times
Reputation: 3256
Quote:
Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
Brittany should have called her primary care physician before going to the hospital. Were not getting the whole story here.
You have to schedule an appointment to see the primary doctor so Urgent care would have been better.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 12:00 PM
 
35,309 posts, read 52,141,002 times
Reputation: 30999
Quote:
Originally Posted by tickyul View Post
Actual cost to the hospital for Brittany's ER visit = $1000.

billing to Brittany/Brittany's insurance. = $12,000.


Or something like that...I would love to see a breakdown of the bill.
Probably looked something like this = http://static5.businessinsider.com/i...ndix-page2.jpg
 
Old 02-03-2018, 12:06 PM
 
4,798 posts, read 3,491,059 times
Reputation: 2301
Quote:
Originally Posted by skeddy View Post
Do you realize that at age 65 Medicare by law becomes your primary insurance? Doesn't sound like it
Yes I do. Whats the cost compared to normal insurance... But, dont think my Tricare isnt part of Medicare.
Yep, I am automatically enrolled. I pay 134 a month. My total deductibles are less than 200 a year, and anything over cost goes to, drumroll, TRICARE.
Pretty good deal if you ask me.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top