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Old 02-04-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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I called this many, many months ago in another thread about the "Russian Collusion"....and that thread was closed. Bottom line is you people have NOTHING against Trump other than that you don't like him.
Why don't you wait until the investigation is over. H Clinton was under investigation for 30 years. Let's give this current one on the liar in chief a little more time. It's not like there are no indictments so far. You are either a Russian bot or the victim of one. Distract and try to undermine the very institutions that keep the country honest. Shameful.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Why don't you wait until the investigation is over. H Clinton was under investigation for 30 years. Let's give this current one on the liar in chief a little more time. It's not like there are no indictments so far. You are either a Russian bot or the victim of one. Distract and try to undermine the very institutions that keep the country honest. Shameful.
LOL institutions like the FBI, who tried their hand at election tampering? Honest organizations like that?
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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LOL institutions like the FBI, who tried their hand at election tampering? Honest organizations like that?
Right, the only one we can trust is the orange god, yes. Very dangerous path.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Let the investigation run it's course. If Trump is innocent why is he trying so hard to shut it down
Because it's an investigation without a crime, and Mueller dragging innocent people into interview after interview is bankrupting people with legal costs.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Right, the only one we can trust is the orange god, yes. Very dangerous path.
The dangerous path, is appointing a special prosecutor to conduct a federal investigation without first identifying an actual crime.

So tell us, what is the specific crime that is Mueller investigating?
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:02 AM
 
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Because it's an investigation without a crime...
Oh yes there are crimes or possible crimes.

1. The theft and distribution of stolen computer data by Russia and Wikileaks is a felony. Circumstantial evidence suggests the Trump campaign may have coordinated with them on the timing of the releases. This would make the Trump campaign an accessory to a felony.

2. Prior to the election Trump campaign communicated with Russian officials a desire to lift sanctions. Flynn was texting people that lifting the sanctions was a done deal.

3. If both 1) and 2) are true, then that would constitute a quid-pro-quo deal. It is illegal, and borderline treason, to accept election meddling from a foreign power and then reward them with changing US foreign policy to their benefit.

4. There is a long list of questionable funding, real estate and loan transactions with the Trump family and Russian financiers. Trump's campaign advisor laundered Russian money through banks on small islands. Kushner got a $285 million loan from a German bank that was also fined heavily for tolerating Russian money laundering activities. Trump's real estate deals have an unusually high number of Russians using paper shell companies. The funding relationship with Russian nationals goes back many years. Were all of these transactions legal and properly recorded?

5. Regarding 4), were taxes properly paid? Or did Trump structure the deals in a way to evade taxes?

6. We know, with 100% certainty, that Trump is and has been obstructing justice. He's done it out in the open and we are all witnesses to it.

There's a lot here to investigate. Let Mueller do his work and wait for his final results.
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Talking Alert the media!

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In light of recent circumstances - I am declaring the Russian Collusion item to be a bunch of nonsense

"Trumplings declare Russiagate a hoax!"

Just remember, tRump's "reality show presidency" is a rerun.

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Old 02-04-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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Why don't you wait until the investigation is over. H Clinton was under investigation for 30 years. Let's give this current one on the liar in chief a little more time. It's not like there are no indictments so far. You are either a Russian bot or the victim of one. Distract and try to undermine the very institutions that keep the country honest. Shameful.



If there was ever a true statement, this is it. No human on the planet has been under a microscope so many times, with never anything found. They keep trying to hang something on her, but they keep failing. (Yeah, I know, because she is "protected".
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Old 02-04-2018, 10:25 AM
 
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# Metoo.

I never understood the Russian narrative anyway. Why exactly would Mr. "America first" decide to collude with the Russians... for what possible purpose? Money? Ok, that would make sense if he wasn't already rich. Has some background that makes him loyal to Russia? Not that I know of. To win? Well how exactly would that work. No one yet has explained to me how exactly the Russians could seriously make ANY POSSIBLE difference in the elections.

Now that it isn't panning out they are moving on to obstruction of justice, even though legal minds believe that the President cannot ever be charged with obstructing justice for doing anything he has the power to do.. like fire Comey.

Finally lets say that Mueller gets an indictment... lets play this out. Will Trump resign? Nope. Will Trump plea? Nope. So he will say in office and will at the very least have ONE juror hold up the jury. There is no way you will not get ONE support juror on any jury. NO conviction.

This one is a waste of time no matter how you look at it.
It all started here... If you get to one minute in. Hillary starts blaming the Russians for everything to distract people from the content of her emails. She purposely planted these seeds during the debate to fuel the future Russian collusion crap....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrVTMAEsFRA
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Opinions opinions opinions.

Facts facts facts.

Flynn has a story to tell. Flynn's sentencing has been delayed. Flynn is singing like a canary. so is Papadopoulos and maybe Gates. Facts trump opinions.

Maybe a little less beer and more facts BG?
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