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Old 02-04-2018, 03:16 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
We had an election.

Trump is president.

We don't need to recount votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

We don't need to have a chat with the electors.

We don't need to investigate a crime that no one can say for sure really happened.
Jill Stein did a recount in Wisconsin, she found 131 uncounted votes, in Trump's favor.



Trump has been investigate basically since he first began to run, and not even a glimmer showing that he'd done what people are accusing him of.

Do people realize that Trump is the most vetted president, ever?
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:26 AM
 
Location: USA
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There already is an impaneled Grand Jury, Mueller's Grand Jury. They have already handed down indictments of 4 of trump's henchmen....more to come. Winning!!
But nothing on Russian collusion
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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But nothing on Russian collusion
Would you settle for conspiracy?
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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This last memo just confirmed what many of us believed. To me the worst part was not the Muller investigation. The fact that we would take America to the brink of WWIII to win an election is incomprehensible! No I do not think the Russians are saints or do I think we are saints. The idea that we would escalate tensions between two superpowers, armed with thousands of nuclear warheads, is mind boggling. Think of what has happened because of this mess. We have had the Russians challenging our territory and our ships with their fighter jets and bombers. Not that they did not before; but this last election has shown the world that we are not trustworthy. We will do and say anything to win. We have lost honor and respect.
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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This last memo just confirmed what many of us believed. To me the worst part was not the Muller investigation. The fact that we would take America to the brink of WWIII to win an election is incomprehensible! No I do not think the Russians are saints or do I think we are saints. The idea that we would escalate tensions between two superpowers, armed with thousands of nuclear warheads, is mind boggling. Think of what has happened because of this mess. We have had the Russians challenging our territory and our ships with their fighter jets and bombers. Not that they did not before; but this last election has shown the world that we are not trustworthy. We will do and say anything to win. We have lost honor and respect.
Hillary would have sold her soul (whatever there is left of it) to the devil to win the election.

@ Fisheye - I only skimmed your writeup originally.

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Old 02-04-2018, 05:04 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Trump has been vindicated IMO -- the swamp now includes the FBI and all high levels of the deep state government - most of whom were actively working to make sure that Trump lost.

The game is over.

Trump can now turn his attentions to running the country and draining the swamp even further.

Let's start with the arrest of Hillary & Bill Clinton, and continue on with anyone at FBI that was engaged in treasonous activities in an attempt to unfairly influence the election. Who's with me?
Trump vindicated himself via twitter. You dont get so many people indicted so close to you without some suspicion. Where there is smoke there is fire. Come on here...they met to speak of adoption? lol
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:05 AM
 
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Speaking of that ridiculous memo, why would Trump and his brain trust put their few remaining political chips down on a memo written by the nitwit Nunes wrote about the squirrelly Carter Page?

This is the same Carter Page who traveled to Moscow during the campaign, met with Kremlin officials, and gave a speech praising Putin and trashing the U.S.

This is the same Carter Page who had been warned by the FBI about associating with Kremlin spies in New York who were trying to recruit him.

This is the same Carter Page who wrote that he was a "Kremlin advisor" while trying to convince an editor to publish his rejected manuscript. The editor stated Page had "some strange views" and described him as a "kook."

No kidding.

Carter Page Touted Russia Contacts in 2013 Letter | Time

Trump bragged about Page being one of his foreign policy advisers for several months before his ties to the Kremlin were exposed and Trump had to dump him.

Yet somehow, Trump and the brain trust believe they can sell the conspiracy theory that Carter Page was an innocent victim, picked on by the FBI and the DOJ for getting a FISA warrant on the guy.

This is the pot they chose to go all in on?

No, collusion is not a crime.

Neither is stupidity, sadly.
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Speaking of that ridiculous memo, why would Trump and his brain trust put their few remaining political chips down on a memo written by the nitwit Nunes wrote about the squirrelly Carter Page?

This is the same Carter Page who traveled to Moscow during the campaign, met with Kremlin officials, and gave a speech praising Putin and trashing the U.S.

This is the same Carter Page who had been warned by the FBI about associating with Kremlin spies in New York who were trying to recruit him.

This is the same Carter Page who wrote that he was a "Kremlin advisor" while trying to convince an editor to publish his rejected manuscript. The editor stated Page had "some strange views" and described him as a "kook."

No kidding.

Carter Page Touted Russia Contacts in 2013 Letter | Time

Trump bragged about Page being one of his foreign policy advisers for several months before his ties to the Kremlin were exposed and Trump had to dump him.

Yet somehow, Trump and the brain trust believe they can sell the conspiracy theory that Carter Page was an innocent victim, picked on by the FBI and the DOJ for getting a FISA warrant on the guy.

This is the pot they chose to go all in on?

No, collusion is not a crime.

Neither is stupidity, sadly.
Please answer me this question:

How many votes did the Russians cast for Trump and how many did they cast for Hillary?
Let me save you the time, the answer is zero.
Conclusion: there is no such thing as Russian Collusion.
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:13 AM
 
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Trump vindicated himself via twitter. You dont get so many people indicted so close to you without some suspicion. Where there is smoke there is fire. Come on here...they met to speak of adoption? lol
They could well have been talk of Russian adoptions. Putin stopped Russian adoption in response to U.S. sanctions over the invasion of Ukraine and Crimea.

Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about talking to the Russians about sanctions.

Trump had barely finished taking the oath of office before he and the brain trust tried to unwind those sanctions. Congress put a halt to that.

Trump and Tillerson did away with the division in the State Dept. dealing with sanctions.

Congress overwhelming passed the Russia sanctions bill for election interference. Trump is still refusing to enforce the sanctions.

So yeah, they could well have been talking about Russian adoptions in response to U.S. sanctions.
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:30 AM
 
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Please answer me this question:

How many votes did the Russians cast for Trump and how many did they cast for Hillary?
Let me save you the time, the answer is zero.
Conclusion: there is no such thing as Russian Collusion.

Trump and his brain trust have been throwing around "collusion."

First it was all about how there was no contact with Russia. Absolutely none.

Then there was contact. Lots of contacts as it turns out. (Is Kushner still amending his Security Clearance paperwork?) But no collusion.

Now it's collusion isn't a crime.



I realize this is likely viewed as witty intellectual exchange at the local tavern, however the Special Counsel is not investigating Trump.

There's even a hilarious clip of one of Trump's attorney arguing with himself on Fox News about whether Trump was under investigation.

Team Mueller is investigating Russian interference in the election. This has been affirmed countless times.

You want to bet that your barroom buddies know more than Mueller and sixteen of the best prosecuting attorneys in the nation, go right ahead.

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