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Old 02-04-2018, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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The thread title is not supported by the cited link. It is all hearsay. Get real.
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:42 AM
 
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https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/959651802235920385
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:44 AM
 
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Also, the FISA warrant for surveillance was on Page not Trump.

Last I read, Page was being described as an inconsequential person in Trump's campaign.
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:46 AM
 
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Uh, how about prevail against his obvious smear campaign against them.
a) There is no smear campaign.
b) The FBI shouldn't be in the business of attempting to beat the President.
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:28 AM
 
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No smear campaign?

What?

Go check Trump's tweets. It's a steady stream of smearing the FBI and DOJ.

All over doing their job of monitoring Carter Page, a guy who during during Trump's campaign gave a speech in Russia running down the U.S. A guy who has been warned for years about keeping company with Russian agent recruiters. A guy who brags about being a "Kremlin advisor."

Hard to believe Americans are posting such BS as "no smear campaign."
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Evidence gathering takes years. Mueller has plenty - and has no obligation to divulge to the public - UNTIL HE BRINGS AN INDICTMENT - what that evidence is.

So, the fact that there is "nothing out there" bodes VERY POORLY for Trump. It is always what you don't know that trips people up over time.

The delusional can continue to say "oh, but there's nothing out there" - which shows how LITTLE they really KNOW about the process. Clearly the 'little grey cells' are not their strong suit - sorta clones of their leader in that way.
There are two different types of evidence in question here.

Evidence of who committed a crime is one type. Before an investigation is undertaken to determine who committed a crime, you first have to have evidence that a crime was actually committed. So far the only evidence that a crime was committed seems to point to the fraud in obtaining the FISA warrants.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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This is one of the best articles I've read yet. It simplifies the huge deepening travesty of the deep state and biased media this memo has exposed.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/03/the-go...state-is-real/

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Old 02-04-2018, 07:51 AM
 
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There are two different types of evidence in question here.

Evidence of who committed a crime is one type. Before an investigation is undertaken to determine who committed a crime, you first have to have evidence that a crime was actually committed. So far the only evidence that a crime was committed seems to point to the fraud in obtaining the FISA warrants.
The "fraud" in obtaining the FISA warrants has not even been proven in the public court of opinion.

If the FISA request did not disclose that one piece of evidence on Page (dossier) was procured through opposition research (possible bias), then you might have something. Especially if the FISA warrant was granted solely on that.

The info being "leaked" by those who have seen the warrant request claim that didn't happen. That is was made clear that a political entity paid for the dossier, BUT, the facts from the dossier about Page were further investigated and found to be true.

If these leaks are accurate, there has been no fraud in obtaining the FISA warrant.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:56 AM
 
Location: San Francisco born/raised - Las Vegas
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This is one of the best articles I've read yet. It simplifies the huge deepening travesty this memo has exposed.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/03/the-go...state-is-real/

Months later, Comey himself told Congress the dossier was “salacious and unverified,” yet was secretly willing to use it in court against Page.

If so, definitely a cause for concern and further review.
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Old 02-04-2018, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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I'm curious to see when the Obamas and the Clintons decide to take an extended vacation to a country with no extradition treaty to the US.

I think Barry is safe if he returns to Kenya. Not sure where Hillary can disappear to....Haiti?
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