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Old 02-03-2018, 08:01 PM
 
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I have two theories:

1) Asian Americans have been in the US longer, and following a uniquely Asian progression tend to become more liberal with each generation. Namely, the first generation were often fleeing from communism and were somewhat right wing as a result. Succeeding generations found America to be less welcoming than the first generation imagined. As a result they realized the limits of assimilation and identified as an outgroup.

With this theory, Indians will become more liberal over time, and are simply not as far along the track as Asian Americans since they are newer arrivals.

2) Indians have more self-confidence because of higher endogamous marriage rates. Asians have high rates of exogamy, and there is a gender imbalance, which leads to alienation among Asian men. Indians however feel more equal in American society because they do not struggle to get attached, and enjoy comparable rates of economic success to Asians.

With this theory, as long as Indian endogamy remains, Indians will remain co-equals in American society, if not assimilate. As a result political inclination will be more of a personal choice than a group identification.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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First of all people from India live in the Asian continent. If not Asian what are they?

Second of all. Who is not welcoming the people you describe as Asians? Unlike many other minority groups they don't complain. They simply go to college, work hard and do just fine. Perhaps there is a lesson there to other groups who say things are not fair.

Third. Where are you basing your info on?
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:10 PM
 
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Well India is a socially conservative country, and even today there are no legal recognition of same sex couples there. Even Asian immigrants from China can be socially conservative. I don't live in the US, however there was a poll on opinions on same sex marriage in my country, and Indian migrants as well as Asian migrants are more likely not to agree with same sex marriage compared to non Asians/Indians.. However they more likely to vote leftist parties due to conservative parties can be seen as xenophobic, but don't agree with everything about them.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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People from India live in the Asian continent. If not Asian what are they?
In the US it's common to use the term "Asian American" to mean those who emigrated from historically Confucian countries.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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I'm not so sure Indian-Asian Americans are more likely to be conservative than East Asian. Actually from what info I've seen the Indian-Asians voted the most for democrats of any group besides blacks.

Asian American Election Eve Poll Infographic – AAPI Civic Engagement Fund

Up till about 25 years ago East Asians voted majority Republican.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:17 PM
 
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They come from a country with a caste system and no social safety net. Conservativism feels familiar.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:18 PM
 
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Second of all. Who is not welcoming the people you describe as Asians? Unlike many other minority groups they don't complain. They simply go to college, work hard and do just fine. Perhaps there is a lesson there to other groups who say things are not fair.
To answer this question I would say, you.

Asians don't necessarily have to always be a minority, as in a group of people different from the white American majority. They could theoretically assimilate, and many have. The concept of the "model minority" is offensive to many Asians.

However voting patterns show that Asians tend to become more liberal over succeeding generations. Maybe this is assimilation, to the liberal upper middle class, but I would also interpret it as a stalling out of the assimilation process.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:30 PM
 
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I'm not so sure Indian-Asian Americans are more likely to be conservative than East Asian. Actually from what info I've seen the Indian-Asians voted the most for democrats of any group besides blacks.

Asian American Election Eve Poll Infographic – AAPI Civic Engagement Fund

Up till about 25 years ago East Asians voted majority Republican.
That's interesting. I was basing this thread mainly on what seemed to be a trend among wealthy Indian Americans to shift to the right, as well as some high profile Indians in the Trump administration.

I will retract my claim about Indian Americans being more likely to be conservative.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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In the US it's common to use the term "Asian American" to mean those who emigrated from historically Confucian countries.
A lot of Americans just assume everyone that everyone with Chinese looking eyes are Chinese. That does not make your post correct.

How about some facts to back up your feelings.
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Old 02-03-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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To answer this question I would say, you.

Asians don't necessarily have to always be a minority, as in a group of people different from the white American majority. They could theoretically assimilate, and many have. The concept of the "model minority" is offensive to many Asians.

However voting patterns show that Asians tend to become more liberal over succeeding generations. Maybe this is assimilation, to the liberal upper middle class, but I would also interpret it as a stalling out of the assimilation process.
A lot of Asians I know whether it be confusion countries as you call them or India are not obsessed with assimilation or playing the victim card.

I don't think most Americans including right wing Americans care about any of this as long as people carry their own weight and don't complain about how everything is unfair.

They simply take personal responsibility and do a great job of getting ahead and taking care of themselves.

I applaud them.
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