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Old 02-04-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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Carter Page was long gone from the Trump campaign when the FISA warrant was served on him.
That's the definition of "irrelevant" - a Title 1 FISA warrant allows the government to look at all communications of the "target"... past, present and future.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:16 AM
 
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That's the definition of "irrelevant" - a Title 1 FISA warrant allows the government to look at all communications of the "target"... past, present and future.
A Title 1 FISA warrant requires that the government have evidence that someone is not only acting as a foreign agent, but also engaged in some illegal acts.

There is no dispute at this point, Carter Paige was not a spy engaged in criminal activities.

These claims were only made because that would allow the intelligence communities to spy on the Trump campaign.

Remember, the memo is only the beginning, there will be much more coming out.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:22 AM
 
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Mcabe stated in Page 4 that no FISA would have been granted without the Steele Dossier..
I suggest you quote the text in page 4. I think you are on a different page, honestly. Is this page four of the memo, or page three of the memo with cover letter counting as one?
I clearly see that FBI knowingly misused Dossier to get FISA on spying on Trump campaign. I think there is a little disingenuous going on here and wordsmith things to state mis-truths about what happened.
I think the Fusion GPS dossier was made and paid for via DNC and Hillary campaign after Law firm in Seattle took over. I think it was later utilized to spy on Campaign.
Many people agree with solid evidence what happened. The left is lying and dodging it with emotions and no facts.
The DNC took over the Dossier in April 2016 after the Free Beacon stopped doing opposition dossier funding through Fusion GPS. So, I get it, the Republican Rag Beacon started it, but never was Steele portion of it put in it while they funded it. Once Hillarys money came into play, Steele was hired to do their bidding.
Congress cleared teh editors etc of the Beacon of the Steele Dossier.. Once again, libs telling lies.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/27/u...ul-singer.html

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Old 02-04-2018, 08:25 AM
 
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A Title 1 FISA warrant requires that the government have evidence that someone is not only acting as a foreign agent, but also engaged in some illegal acts.

There is no dispute at this point, Carter Paige was not a spy engaged in criminal activities.
Yep, I know that... just as James Rosen wasn't a "co-conspirator". The Obama admin had a history of lying to judges to spy on their enemies.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The very last page of the Doc. it has just enough information to blow the whole political and legal claims right out of the water. Just checked the PDF counter and it is listed as page 6.

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Old 02-04-2018, 08:46 AM
 
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Yep, I know that... just as James Rosen wasn't a "co-conspirator". The Obama admin had a history of lying to judges to spy on their enemies.
Just check out Carter Page. You get nothing. A zero. Blank pages. Watch an interview. Disbelief.

Why did Nunes waste a memo on him? And Trump bought it!!!
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:50 AM
 
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The left is losing this whole argument. The legality of what they did does not justify anything. No court will allow any of Muellers evidence now. Thats how serious it when you illegally obtain a warrant. There is ZERO evidence Trump did anything wrong. Zero.
But there is plenty of evidence Obama and Hillary did many things wrong and against the law..
But as always, talking to liberals is like talking to drunks.
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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The very last page of the Doc. it has just enough information to blow the whole political and legal claims right out of the water. Just checked the PDF counter and it is listed as page 6.
Yep, paragraph 5? I want the liberal leaning people to explain what FBI did legally and how the dossier isnt relevant..
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Old 02-04-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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The left is losing this whole argument. The legality of what they did does not justify anything. No court will allow any of Muellers evidence now. Thats how serious it when you illegally obtain a warrant. There is ZERO evidence Trump did anything wrong. Zero.
But there is plenty of evidence Obama and Hillary did many things wrong and against the law..
But as always, talking to liberals is like talking to drunks.
Hogwash
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:00 AM
 
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Just check out Carter Page. You get nothing. A zero. Blank pages. Watch an interview. Disbelief.

Why did Nunes waste a memo on him? And Trump bought it!!!
No one seriously thought Carter Page was a spy. Democrats used him as a Trojan horse into the Trump campaign... opposition research on steroids.
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