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Old 02-05-2018, 09:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Yep growing opium and coca leaves and other natural plants can get you in trouble.
I'm talking about the devils lettuce. The one that 61% of Americans think should be legal yet cannot be because of the Baptaliban.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Great. Now we'll have another flood of people leaving the socialist-controlled states for the free states. Can't say much, I are one.
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I am kinda shocked that 9 states are thinking about forcing a individual mandate on people for healthcare..
Just shocked. They must really feel the need to care for ya.. LOL
9 states considering individual mandate rules: report | TheHill
States can get away with things that the federal government cannot.

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One way or the other, we all pay for those who don't have health insurance.

And we all pay for those who don't have health care.
Um, the sole purpose of non-profit hospitals and their monopolies is to provide treatment to the indigent.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:29 AM
 
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Um, the sole purpose of non-profit hospitals and their monopolies is to provide treatment to the indigent.

Non-profit hospitals most assuredly do not provide much free care for the indigent. They bill the government, turn accounts over to collection agencies, and turn away those who cannot pay.

Though non-profit hospitals benefit from tax subsidies, receive about half their revenue from public sources and spend about 3% of total revenues on charity care.

Secular hospitals expend about 2% of total revenues on charity care.

Public hospitals a little under 6%.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ing-much-poor/

Pope Francis wants Catholic health care providers to do more for the poor, but he's a voice crying in the wilderness.

I've worked with several non-profit hospitals in a couple of states. They all have a charity fund that they use to write off a portion of the bill for a low-income patients without insurance.

For example, say a person runs up a $12,000 bill from an Emergency Room visit. The hospital will write off $6,000, set up a payment plan with interest. If the person falls behind, the bill is sent off to a collection agency.

Hospital gets their $6,000 write off, and often gets something if not all of the bill that the person struggles to pay.

I can't tell you how many people I've met who refuse to go to the ER for fear of running up a bill that will ruin their credit rating and follow them for years.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:31 AM
 
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Great. Now we'll have another flood of people leaving the socialist-controlled states for the free states. Can't say much, I are one.
The flood will likely be the other way as the less fortunate struggle to keep their heads above water in the dystopian nation that Republicans dream of.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:36 AM
 
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You are a very nice person to have worked in that field. It is a tuff job.

A big heart, maybe, but a bigger open pocket book for taxes
Minnesota is one of the highest taxed state.
And outsiders know this thus Social Workers send then here. And people come on there own.

In general people do not mind helping out, but it is taken advantage of.
I worked with the less fortunate most of my adult life.

For every moocher I ran across, I met a dozen people who would break your heart with how hard they are trying.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Non-profit hospitals most assuredly do not provide much free care for the indigent. They bill the government, turn accounts over to collection agencies, and turn away those who cannot pay.
Non-profit hospitals cannot and do not bill the government, except when authorized to do so under Medicare or Medicaid.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:13 PM
 
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If you can't afford to pay $500,000+ for cancer treatment (what mine cost in 2011 when I was 23), then you can't afford to be without health insurance.

For those who think they "don't need" health insurance, who do they think will pay if they develop cancer or are in a catastrophic car accident? The state, mine included, isn't stepping in to make sure you have health insurance for yourself - they're stepping in so you don't saddle the taxpayers with your bill.

Going without health insurance is the height of irresponsible behavior. Every human body is fallible, if one goes without health insurance they will force others to cover their costs if they have an accident or illness. It is absolutely ridiculius that the party that claims to be about "personal responsibility" believes people should be able to refuse to buy health insurance and put any future health care costs they incur onto everyone else.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:30 PM
 
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Yep, blue states forcing the purchase so they can have wealth redistribution.

Idiots.

We already have wealth redistribution - from the uninsured to the insured.
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Old 02-05-2018, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Yep, blue states forcing the purchase so they can have wealth redistribution.

Idiots.
Those of us that actually WORK for and earn our money,( try it someday) understand what it's like to struggle.
You trust funders who invested at the Bank of Mom and Dad would NOT understand. I don't blame you all though, I mean, How could you really know that feeling? At least try maybe.
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