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Old 02-06-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This one is pretty bad. If someone had been walking between cars, they would have been killed.

Clearly this is Amtrak's fault.

Yeah, no sense waiting until all the facts are in before assigning blame.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Let me guess: the Amtrak crash happened because it is an Evil Big Government program that is wasting our tax dollars.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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Not according to the article. Yes they had a crash but:



They also use FAR more train transit than we do in the U.S. which makes the case that they have a very minor accident rate.
And they have very few miles of railroad tracks by comparison. Its a LOT easier to have less accidents when your railway system is physically so small.

Yes-they manage about 2X the ridership, we have 1/2 the ridership, but we have over 250,000 km of railway, in comparison to their 27,182 km.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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And they have very few miles of railroad tracks by comparison. Its a LOT easier to have less accidents when your railway system is physically so small.

Yes-they manage about 2X the ridership, we have 1/2 the ridership, but we have over 250,000 km of railway, in comparison to their 27,182 km.
So we have more track to maintain, but I swear from when I used to live there, that there trains run much more than ours, and I am basically referring to the local, older trains versus the Shinkansen.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:41 PM
 
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Yeah, no sense waiting until all the facts are in before assigning blame.
It has been a very very bad 7 days for your Burdell. (great week for Trump, Democrat party in ashes) I guess I can understand why you lash out.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:45 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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It has been a very very bad 7 days for your Burdell. I guess I can understand why you lash out.
No, I don't think you understand much at all, there are many possible causes that have certainly not been investigated at this point but you choose to blame Amtrak based on WHAT? I suppose if the engineer had been killed you'd seize the corpse as a convenient point of blame.


BTW, I've had a GREAT 7 days, just had a nice walk on the beach today.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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All I can wonder is: how does Japan manage to do it?

Our train system is a joke.
So Japan doesn't have any train accidents?

My friend went over to Japan recently and took a lot of trains. He and his wife loved it and said folks were very nice. I don't know how fair it is to compare our rail system to their rail system though.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:23 PM
 
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So we have more track to maintain, but I swear from when I used to live there, that there trains run much more than ours, and I am basically referring to the local, older trains versus the Shinkansen.
They do. But again, they're much shorter runs, and they can afford to concentrate spending on keeping them up to date and maintained.

Additionally a lot of our accidents tend to be people who are new to a route messing up. 1/10th the route distances makes that far less likely.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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So Japan doesn't have any train accidents?

My friend went over to Japan recently and took a lot of trains. He and his wife loved it and said folks were very nice. I don't know how fair it is to compare our rail system to their rail system though.
One thing they do differently is adopt the latest in technology, and keep politicians hands out of the pockets of the fossil fuels industry. Here is one of their concepts that runs on solar and wind.

https://inhabitat.com/japan-unveils-...ic-aero-train/
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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So Japan doesn't have any train accidents?

My friend went over to Japan recently and took a lot of trains. He and his wife loved it and said folks were very nice. I don't know how fair it is to compare our rail system to their rail system though.
Yes, they do but they are rare. I was just wondering how they managed to handle things better than we do. But as greywar pointed out, their train system doesn't have as many miles or long route as the U.S. system does.
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