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Old 02-07-2018, 04:42 AM
 
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There just aren't a lot of things that Oklahoma can do to attract business other than cutting taxes.
You probably have a point there.

Oklahoma is ranked 48th in quality of life factors.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/11/top-...-oklahoma.html

Oklahoma ranks 1st for chronic lower respiratory disease, and is in a tie for 1st place for diabetes.

Ranks 2nd for heart disease.

8th for suicides.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s...a/oklahoma.htm

 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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10 year wait lists for disability services.
Where is this? I didn't see anything about this. It sounds like BS.

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Mentally ill man is left on a jail cell floor for days until he dies.
And this has to do with funding? Or something else?

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Teachers moving out of state to get higher pay.
Doesn't this happen in every state where their neighboring state pays better?

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School districts cutting back to a 4 day week due to lack of funding.
These are almost-entirely rural school districts. And it isn't only happening in Oklahoma. Many school districts across the country have gone to four-day weeks when the cost of gas spiked back in 2008. The cost of the buses was often more than the teachers.

In 17 different states there are school districts who operate only four days a week.

https://www.uscranton.com/resources/.../#.WnrjhK6nGUk

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2...week-trap.html

Four-Day School Weeks More Popular, But Impact on Students and Educators Unclear - NEA Today

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Hospitals going bankrupt due to Oklahoma declining ACA Medicaid expansion and cutting Medicaid reimbursement rates.
In the link, it was referring to a small number of rural hospitals, in areas where there are shrinking populations, which consist primarily of the elderly.

Those hospitals are struggling. Just like I assume most everything else there is struggling. Which is why these areas continue to see declining populations.

In areas where populations are stable or growing, no such problems exist.

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There simply is no good news coming out of Oklahoma.
So where is all the good news happening exactly? What state is "better"? And don't say Texas.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:44 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Nice, come together, we are all American's type of rhetoric.
hey, if you had a tree for a beard you'd be perpetually angry too.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:46 AM
 
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There just aren't a lot of things that Oklahoma can do to attract business other than cutting taxes.
So are the low taxes convincing businesses to come to Oklahoma?
 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:48 AM
 
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Nice, come together, we are all American's type of rhetoric.
Too bad the Trumplican party does not believe it.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:52 AM
 
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Where is this? I didn't see anything about this. It sounds like BS.
Sounds like you either didn't bother to read the article I posted or didn't comprehend what you read.

Let's give it another go.

"Putnam cites the example of a popular support program for developmental disabilities which gave families of limited means resources to take care of their loved ones. It takes roughly 10 years just to get on a waiting list to be considered for the support waiver to help a disabled person, meaning applications filed in 2006 are just now being considered. Many of the disabled patients have died by the time their files are being considered."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ool-weeks-poor

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Old 02-07-2018, 04:55 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Ya know there IS such thing as a happy medium between IL left loony and OK right loony.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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In the link, it was referring to a small number of rural hospitals, in areas where there are shrinking populations, which consist primarily of the elderly.

Those hospitals are struggling. Just like I assume most everything else there is struggling. Which is why these areas continue to see declining populations.
Once again, did you bother to read the article? Did you comprehend what you read?

It's lack of health insurance that is leading to hospital bankruptcies. Oklahoma has one of the highest rates of uninsured in the nation.

The elderly have Medicare.
 
Old 02-07-2018, 05:04 AM
 
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So where is all the good news happening exactly? What state is "better"? And don't say Texas.
How about any of the other states that are ranked higher than Oklahoma in quality of life?

How about those states that aren't going bankrupt?

States where teachers and business are moving to?
 
Old 02-07-2018, 05:07 AM
 
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Republicans hate government. They want to destroy it. Anything and everything government does that makes us a first class nation they desire to bring down. It is why America's enemies so fervently support Pubs. Oklahoma and Kansas are what they want for the USA. Pubs need to be relegated to the trash heap of history.
Nonsense. Excepting minor differences in policy Republicans luv guv same as you. As evidence I present the ongoing political tools of war, welfarism, corporatism, taxation, spending, debt, police statism, etc that are constants regardless of whichever team is pulling the levers.
If you want to claim the moral high ground you'll repudiate all the aforementioned and embrace freedom.
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