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Old 02-08-2018, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Depends on your idea of equality.

If its some dystopian Harrison Bergeron scenario then yes, it is oppression.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:09 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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The same one that makes you think some white conservative males don't act this way.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The same one that makes you think some white conservative males don't act this way.

Apart from sex, conservationism is generally associated with self-sufficiency.


a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change; specifically : such a philosophy calling for lower taxes, limited government regulation of business and investing, a strong national defense, and individual financial responsibility for personal needs (such as retirement income or health-care coverage)


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As for equality, since I am a member of the only group in the United States still legally discriminated against in employment and educational opportunities, I most certainly do support equal opportunity and eagerly await the day when I will also be equal under the law.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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Do you feel it's accurate? I think so, a perfect example is all the men that complain about women being anything other than a 50s housewife.
Some people would call the abilty to stay at home and look after the house and kids to be a privelage.i did this for 18 moths while my wife worked, and found it to be the easiest , least stressful 18 months of my adult life.

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Old 02-08-2018, 02:49 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I think the premise, as described in the thread title, is worth discussing. Unfortunately, the text within the first post set the wrong tone by immediately attacking a specific group. Not a very good way to initiate an honest (not to mention civil) conversation, IMO.
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:01 AM
 
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Would white American consider me white?

If no then mi Mediterranean tan is too hot for them.

I look hot driving Alfa Romeo beside the Amalfi Coast.

I am not a victim.
Weren't you "Italiana Ed Eleganza" yesterday?
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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Does seem like a straw man/woman argument.

I would say self-serving too since rejecting the false choice offered (June Cleaver, take it or leave it) would limit other options for men.

Today, I don't know any men that expect their wife/girlfriend to be anything except financially independent.

Most men I know take the position that if women want to be treated as equals, they can sign-up for all the bull **** that comes along with it.
I don't want the person I vowed to take care of to work a single day in her entire life. I'd have a real problem if she decided to go back to work one day because that is not the life I worked so hard to built for us. I knew long before I ever met my wife that I didn't want to marry someone who was more interested in making someone else rich than raising our children. And NONE of that makes my wife less equal that me, what an absurd line of thought.
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:34 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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As for equality, since I am a member of the only group in the United States still legally discriminated against in employment and educational opportunities, I most certainly do support equal opportunity and eagerly await the day when I will also be equal under the law.
there is no group that can be discriminated against , in those contexts .
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:41 AM
 
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Yes, absolutely right...which is why I ignore those whiners.
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:47 AM
 
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the current administration is weak on terrorism from white supremacists.

They are the biggest danger to America. We need to arm ourselves NOW to fight these homegrown terrorists. The administration is much much weaker than the Obama administration which was much better at dealing with them.
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