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Old 02-09-2018, 07:33 PM
 
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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The country should be separate in two and since black S Africans are equal or superior and much more numerous and whites were holding them down they should have no problem creating a more prosperous and peaceful nation. Just leave whites to their own misery without the benefit of outsiders enriching them.
Uhhh....nah. That’s rewarding bad behavior. White South Africans rolled the dice and bet on Apartheid... they lost. That’s just how it goes.

The same rules that y’all use for Israel must be applied here. Folks love to say how the Palestinian people and assorted Arabs rolled the dice in their defiance against Israel, and they lost and deserve every bad calamity they get for losing.

So that’s EXACTLY how this should go too. Same with Zimbabwe, Algeria, Vietnam and anywhere else where the Europeans overplayed their bad hand and lost. White South Africans have two choices...South Africa or go home to Holland. But ain’t gonna be no carving up Africa because it’s not theirs to carve.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 07:41 PM
 
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I think we were lucky in the US that our founders were actually educated gentry not far removed from the colonial ruling class in England.
I dont think thats true.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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Uhhh....nah. That’s rewarding bad behavior. White South Africans rolled the dice and bet on Apartheid... they lost. That’s just how it goes.

The same rules that y’all use for Israel must be applied here. Folks love to say how the Palestinian people and assorted Arabs rolled the dice in their defiance against Israel, and they lost and deserve every bad calamity they get for losing.

So that’s EXACTLY how this should go too. Same with Zimbabwe, Algeria and anywhere else where the Europeans overplayed their bad hand and lost. White South Africans have two choices...South Africa or go home to Holland. But ain’t gonna be no carving up Africa because it’s not theirs to carve.
What are you talking about? SA faced international pressure and was forced to fully integrate. There's not one historical white country not being forced or pressured by the "international community" to be diverse except for Israel, which is quiet suspicious and telling in its own right. Most whites of the world just want to be left the hell alone and for outsiders to stop imposing themselves on them. You act like the Bantu are all indigenous to that area. Many of them rushed in over the centuries as whites started building something.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 09:41 PM
 
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Not our country, heck, not our continent. Not our problem. Let the natives do with SA what they have done with the rest of Africa. It is descending back to a 7th century culture living in mud huts, eating bugs and crapping in their water supply once again. They don't want people from 1st world countries there? Fine. Leave them to their own devices. Centuries of tribal culture and divisiveness has proven itself incapable of succeeding in with a populated, advanced, diverse society.

As far as SA farmers, open up our refugee program for them. They are legitimate refugees, persecuted for their race and no other reason. Best of all, most are actually educated and would be contributors to our society.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 10:40 PM
 
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Not our country, heck, not our continent. Not our problem. Let the natives do with SA what they have done with the rest of Africa. It is descending back to a 7th century culture living in mud huts, eating bugs and crapping in their water supply once again. They don't want people from 1st world countries there? Fine. Leave them to their own devices. Centuries of tribal culture and divisiveness has proven itself incapable of succeeding in with a populated, advanced, diverse society.

As far as SA farmers, open up our refugee program for them. They are legitimate refugees, persecuted for their race and no other reason. Best of all, most are actually educated and would be contributors to our society.
Completely agree with all that. With the bolded, I remember Bill Clinton and other western leaders instead of minding their own business hammered SA to give up their policies, creating the refugees. Now they wash their hands of the mess they created. The West kind of owes them refuge.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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No it was the Khiosan's land long before the Bantu overran them. It was whoever's land that held it, and the whites foolish bowed to international pressure to give it up. You can't have it both ways. Non-whites and Israelis too can't live in and basically have free colonization in the West then claim no one should be in their lands. Diversity for all or diversity for none.
Bantus are black. That’s all that matters. Boers are not. They have a homeland....it’s called Holland.
 
Old 02-09-2018, 11:49 PM
 
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Bantus are black. That’s all that matters. Boers are not. They have a homeland....it’s called Holland.
And will the Netherlands accept back the Boers and remove all the non-whites and non-Dutch in their homeland to make room? All the non-whites have to leave white countries before they can complain.
 
Old 02-10-2018, 08:32 AM
 
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Bantus are black. That’s all that matters. Boers are not. They have a homeland....it’s called Holland.
Besides Holland, Boers was also composed of French Hughenots, Germans, Scandinavians.

The mention of Khoisans, bring me back this older thread on C-D. //www.city-data.com/forum/afric...an-people.html

It's a bit sad then there's no English subtitled videos of African historian Bernard Lugan. He got some interesting videos about South Africa.
 
Old 02-10-2018, 08:39 AM
 
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Bantus are black. That’s all that matters. Boers are not. They have a homeland....it’s called Holland.
Just imagine if someone said that about black people in America.

It's all about revenge for you guys. So racist.
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