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Old 02-09-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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It was their money. Iran doesn't get a say in how the U.S. spends its money, do they?
You want to defend Obama releasing money to them with decades of interest?
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Old 02-09-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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So A country that has backed rebels against another country used some of their own money that was released to them to do this.

Meanwhile Republicans try and make it sound like Obama pulled billions out of our own economy, and gave it to people who are terrorists.

You can word this in multiple ways. The one closest to the truth?

Iran used their own money to do stuff that may be funding terrorists. The release of their money was in order to avoid them having nuclear weapons...like in North Korea.
I don't think OP has any interest in the truth, unfortunately.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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So A country that has backed rebels against another country used some of their own money that was released to them to do this.

Meanwhile Republicans try and make it sound like Obama pulled billions out of our own economy, and gave it to people who are terrorists.

You can word this in multiple ways. The one closest to the truth?

Iran used their own money to do stuff that may be funding terrorists. The release of their money was in order to avoid them having nuclear weapons...like in North Korea.
hmm..

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Meanwhile Republicans try and make it sound like Obama pulled billions out of our own economy, and gave it to people who are terrorists.
CITATION NEEDED..
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:07 PM
 
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Obama-era cash traced to Iran-backed terrorists

The U.S. government has traced some of the $1.7 billion released to Iran by the Obama administration to Iranian-backed terrorists in the two years since the cash was transferred.

According to knowledgeable sources, Iran has used the funds to pay its main proxy, the Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah, along with the Quds Force, Iran’s main foreign intelligence and covert action arm and element of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

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“The enormous financial windfall the Iranian regime received because of the deal — access to more than $100 billion, including $1.8 billion in cash — has not been used to better the lives of the Iranian people,” Mr. Trump said Jan. 12. “Instead, it has served as a slush fund for weapons, terror, and oppression, and to further line the pockets of corrupt regime leaders.”


In other news, the sky is blue today.

Surely Obama knew how Iran would spend the money.
Come on bro, don't be racist.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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You want to defend Obama releasing money to them with decades of interest?
What part of it was their money do you not understand?
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:20 PM
 
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hmm..



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US made $1.7 billion transfer to Iran in foreign cash, Treasury says | Fox News

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The Obama administration acknowledged Tuesday that a $1.7 billion transfer to Iran earlier this year was paid entirely in foreign hard currency.

An initial $400 million delivery was sent to Tehran Jan. 17, the same day Iran agreed to release four American prisoners. Congressional officials told the Wall Street Journal that the remaining $1.3 billion was paid in two more installments delivered on Jan. 22 and Feb. 5.

A Treasury spokeswoman told the Associated Press the cash payments were necessary because of the "effectiveness of U.S. and international sanctions," which isolated Iran from the international finance system. The payments were made in Swiss francs, euros and other currencies.

Officials from the Treasury, Justice and State Departments briefed congressional staffers on the payment details Tuesday at the Capitol.

The $1.7 billion was the settlement of a 37-year-old arbitration claim between the U.S. and Iran. The remaining $1.3 billion represented estimated interest on the Iranian cash the U.S. had held since the 1970s.


White House officials had said that they believed the U.S. would lose the arbitration case over the initial $400 million payment, made by the last Shah of Iran months before the Islamic Revolution. Such a decision would have made them liable for much more money.

The Obama administration had claimed the transfer and the prisoner release were unrelated events, but recently acknowledged the cash was used as leverage until the Americans were allowed to leave Iran. Congressional Republicans have accused the White House of paying ransom to Iran in exchange for the prisoners, a charge Obama has rejected.

On Tuesday, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., and Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., introduced bills that would bar such payments in the future.

"The U.S. government should not be in the business of negotiating with terrorists and paying ransom money in exchange for the release of American hostages," Rubio said in a statement.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Old 02-09-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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You want to defend Obama releasing money to them with decades of interest?
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What part of it was their money do you not understand?
I'll take that as a "yes" to my question.

No - it was not determined that it was their money.

There were other lawsuits between us and them that were unresolved.

Obama took it upon himself to settle one of the lawsuits and pay them money. They tried to spin it as a savings to settle it ahead of time, but there were other lawsuits in play that could have countered how much money flowed in which direction.
Moreover, the administration had more than $400 million in other claims against Iran, arising under the “Victims of Trafficking and Violence Protection Act,” for court judgments it holds against Iran for terrorist attacks against Americans. That law specifically provided that “no funds shall be paid to Iran . . . from the Foreign Military Sales Fund, until [such claims] have been dealt with to the satisfaction of the United States.”

In a Jan. 29 letter, Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) asked why the administration had paid Iran its claim before Iran satisfied the VTVPA claims — which total $465 million plus interest. The administration responded it had resolved the VTVPA claims “by securing a favorable resolution on the interest owed” Iran. But in a June 1 letter to Secretary of State John Kerry, Royce computed the maximum Iranian claim arising out of the 1979 payment as $1.8 billion — before considering any offsets in American claims against Iran.

Funny how the AP only reported on part of the story...

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Old 02-09-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Lets see. Obama Iranian Policy:
  • Obama & Pompous Ass Kerry give $1.7B to islamic terrorist dictators running Iran in hapless appeasement plan.
  • Iranian terrorists laugh at idiot Obama. Take money.
  • Terrorists laugh at Obama apologists who say it was "their" money so it's OK.
  • Iranians capture American Navy personnel and force them to bend the knee in front of guns in response. Obama does nothing except to beg they be released unharmed.
  • Iranians laugh again
  • Kerry goes on taxpayer paid for bike ride in French Alps and breaks leg. Huge taxpayer expense to bring him back to USA on military jets.
  • Iranians use Obama appeasement payola to fund terrorist groups.
Now you know why 1200 Democrat politicians lost their jobs due the policies of the failed community agitator.
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Sorry, I read the info you posted, but i didn't see anywhere Republicans said the money ws taxpyer funds..can you clarify?
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Old 02-09-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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Obama-era cash traced to Iran-backed terrorists

The U.S. government has traced some of the $1.7 billion released to Iran by the Obama administration to Iranian-backed terrorists in the two years since the cash was transferred.

According to knowledgeable sources, Iran has used the funds to pay its main proxy, the Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah, along with the Quds Force, Iran’s main foreign intelligence and covert action arm and element of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

...
“The enormous financial windfall the Iranian regime received because of the deal — access to more than $100 billion, including $1.8 billion in cash — has not been used to better the lives of the Iranian people,” Mr. Trump said Jan. 12. “Instead, it has served as a slush fund for weapons, terror, and oppression, and to further line the pockets of corrupt regime leaders.”


In other news, the sky is blue today.

Surely Obama knew how Iran would spend the money.
It was IRAN's money.
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