Debating like adults always exposes liberal lunacy

[Fifty Seven]

Originally Posted by FluidFreedom

I didn’t vote for Clinton or Trump.

My statement about Trump is based on talking with so many people who voted in this election. Many I have spoken to who voted for Trump are regretting it. I have family members that voted for him who wish they could take it all back. I have coworkers who voted for him and wish they too could take it back. Just listening to people talk about Trump, it’s clear that more and more people are unhappy with him. I don’t care what his approval ratings are (based on some poll that I have no idea who or how it is made). I just know that based on what I hear...people are unhappy.

I don't know one person who voted for Trump who regrets it but I know a few who voted for Hillary who are now glad she didn't win.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Rambler123

The far-right blindly supports a man-child in Trump who they wouldn't have trusted with their money, house, or wife a few years ago. They don't believe in science or facts, hate anyone who's different, and back up most of their "reasoning" with nutty conspiracy theories, obviously partisan crap they "found on the internet," double-standards, or appealing to buffet-style religious quotes.

They are in no position to accuse anyone else of "lunacy."

<snicker>... got to love when a leftist tells us how they think we think.

[Ibanezguitar]

Originally Posted by chad3

The liberal lunacy in the video involves the actual statistics of police violence towards black Americans, and those statistics not justifying the outrage of groups like Black Lives Matter. But still in America there is racial discrimination involving jobs, pay, profiling and prison, and there are lots of issues that justify anger from black Americans.



And the video did a good job of exposing it. But what is worse liberal lunacy or conservative lunacy?

Conservative lunacy involves spending more on the military than the next 7 most powerful countries combined, doing tax cuts that raise workers income by 0.8% and raise the richest 0.1% of Americans income by 14.2%, desiring cuts to Social Security and Medicare to pay for tax cuts for the richest 0.1% of Americans, desiring deregulation that will give millions of Americans cancer, covering up deficits created by republicans and then blaming the deficits on democrats, giving republican presidents credit for falling unemployment rates that were falling 6 years before they became president, or giving republican presidents credit for a rising stock market and then blaming a liberal conspiracy when it falls.

Larry Elder made some powerful points about the reality of the facts surrounding groups like BLM, but still these groups have much to logically complain about. But conservative lunacy has no logic other than increasing the profits for the CEO's and large corporations that fund the republican party.

The bold quote is why there will always be perpetual victimhood among certain Black Americans.

It feels great to place blame at the feet of others for you're own bad decisions and failures.

I so want to post evidence of my salary but I know it ultimately won't really prove my point (I'm doing better than most White people in this country). I was a troubled teen from a single parent household, that was able to do a complete 180 from a juvenile delinquent to a relatively successful adult. It was made possible by the opportunities available to me in this country and my conscious decision to make something of myself.

I've only ever worked for White business owners and my race has never been an impediment to reaching my career goals. I learned what marketable skills were worth my time/interest and didn't look back. I didn't land every job I applied for but I was disciplined and persistent.

This is truly common sense stuff; meaning I did what most everyone who wants to succeed does to get ahead.

I of course love Larry Elder. Wish I had a father like him in my life when I was a boy.

[chad3]

Originally Posted by Ibanezguitar

The bold quote is why there will always be perpetual victimhood among certain Black Americans.

Conservatives make some excellent points about black America like perpetual victimhood, ex.ex.

It feels great to place blame at the feet of others for you're own bad decisions and failures.

I so want to post evidence of my salary but I know it ultimately won't really prove my point (I'm doing better than most White people in this country). I was a troubled teen from a single parent household, that was able to do a complete 180 from a juvenile delinquent to a relatively successful adult. It was made possible by the opportunities available to me in this country and my conscious decision to make something of myself.

Every person has their own special talents and abilities, and perhaps 50%-75% of people have the ability to do what you did (but not everyone has that ability.)

I grew up around low income black Americans and their lives are different than white America. These people are surrounded by violent gangs, murder, crime, drugs and prostitution to the point its not safe for them to go outside at night. And their parents were uneducated and the kids are uneducated.

These low income black Americans don't have parents to help them, they have no money, they don't have nice clothes, they don't have internet access and their families don't have cars. And American culture forces many of these people to live a life financed by hustling, government assistance and occasional part time jobs.

And not all those people have the ability to get a job. That job involves walking 3 miles to a bus stop, waiting 45 min for the bus, riding the bus for 1 1/2 hours, getting off the bus without presentable clothes or money, and then walking to a white owned business and saying "What up playa, where yo shot calla be chillin dog" (and a white hillbilly/redneck talking American does not face that same discrimination.)

And even black Americans who make the right choices often have difficulty finding a job. And black Americans with college degrees have the same chances of being hired for a job as a white high school dropout.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanad.../#2c0afb417b8f

I've only ever worked for White business owners and my race has never been an impediment to reaching my career goals. I learned what marketable skills were worth my time/interest and didn't look back. I didn't land every job I applied for but I was disciplined and persistent.

This is truly common sense stuff; meaning I did what most everyone who wants to succeed does to get ahead.

I of course love Larry Elder. Wish I had a father like him in my life when I was a boy.

I believe philosophies like making the right choices, being a good father, not desiring to live off government assistance and not wanting to live a life of perpetual victimhood are needed to fully solve the problems in black America.

But the above philosophies alone can't solve all the problems. Things like better public transportation, better housing, better schools, better after school programs, better police protection, better access to the internet, and job training programs are also needed.