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Are you denying...
That the republican(s) dropped their research with Fusion GPS before steele was hired?
No, and I don't deny anything you said in post #48.
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That the DNC/hillary picked up the research, with Fusion GPS, and fund it?
Whether you are a republican or democrat you need around $1 billion dollars in campaign funds to run for president. And that money comes from billionaires, large corporations, unions, environmental groups, ex.ex. And a presidential campaign is a huge mechanism of dirty tricks, political favors, alliances, and big money. And whether your a republican or democrat presidential candidate you don't know everything going on around you in a campaign.
During the campaign Hillary was concerned about raising money, making good speeches, not coughing on stage and the mathematics of winning the election (smearing Donald Trump in the media or FBI was someone else's job.)
And Hillary Clinton was upset that the dossier was not made public before the election, and Hillary would have rather had the American voters know about the dossier (rather than join a conspiracy to give the dossier to the FBI and have the dossier be made public only after the election.) http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/26/politi...eed/index.html
And even if Hillary was aware of the dossier and knew about the fake dossier being given to the FBI, Hillary still has 2-3 witnesses who claim she knew nothing about it. Do you believe a court will convict Hillary Clinton with those witnesses? Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics
And I believe those witnesses would love to testify in court in Clinton's defense, so they would be owed favors by the Clinton's a powerful and wealthy family (and it would appear Hillary already has the dossier charges beat.)
"Thus, the Democratic nominee paid for and created allegations against her Republican opponent, gave them to law enforcement, then tipped friendly media to the investigation. And it is almost certain FBI agents supporting Clinton were among the anonymous sources.
In fact, the Clinton connections are so fundamental that there probably would not have been an FBI investigation without her involvement.
That makes hers a brazen work of political genius — and perhaps the dirtiest dirty trick ever played in presidential history. Following her manipulation of the party operation to thwart Bernie Sanders in the primary, Clinton is revealed as relentlessly ruthless in her quest to be president.
The only thing that went wrong is that she lost the election. And based on what we know now, her claims about Trump were false.
Of the charges against four men brought by special counsel Robert Mueller, none involves helping Russia interfere with the election."
And how do you know that. The fact is, we don't know what is going on with this investigation.
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No, and I don't deny anything you said in post #48.
Okay then.
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Whether you are a republican or democrat you need around $1 billion dollars in campaign funds to run for president.
Trump ran and won on $66 mil.
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And that money comes from billionaires, large corporations, unions, environmental groups, ex.ex. And a presidential campaign is a huge mechanism of dirty tricks, political favors, alliances, and big money. And whether your a republican or democrat presidential candidate you don't know everything going on around you in the campaign.
I agree.
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During the campaign Hillary was concerned about raising money, making good speeches, not coughing on stage and the mathematics of winning the election (smearing Donald Trump in the media or FBI was someone else's job.)
And Hillary Clinton was upset that the dossier was not made public before the election, and Hillary would rather have had the American voters know about the dossier (rather than join a conspiracy to give the dossier to the FBI and have the dossier be made public only after the election.)
And even if Hillary was aware of the dossier and knew about the fake dossier being given to the FBI, Hillary still has 2-3 witnesses who claim she knew nothing about it. Do you believe a court will convict Hillary Clinton with those witnesses? Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics
And I believe those witnesses would love to testify in court in Clinton's defense (so they would be owed favors by the Clinton's a powerful and wealthy family.)
"The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings." https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ks-2016-215774
"The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings." https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ks-2016-215774
I think RosieSD said it best,
"Again: There was crap happening on BOTH sides.
Peel back the layers on BOTH sides.
Let's get to the truth on BOTH sides.
Until more people start demanding that, we are sunk. On BOTH sides."
Until more people start demanding that, we are sunk. On BOTH sides.
Liberal Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda (LMPEP)
The media control information, reporting only news that attacks our president. The LMPEP media buries news of lawlessness that implicates Democrats – Hillary, Obama, member of the leftist cabal (a secret political clique or faction). A tainted FBI that engaged in political espionage and illegal unmasking, dictator tactics weaponizing our intelligence agencies against American citizens and against political opponents.
Even a biased media should be shocked. Yet the press defends the treason, blows off politicized intelligence, and attacks the messengers. There's a media blackout, a deliberate attempt to keep this information from the American people.
No, and I don't deny anything you said in post #48.
Whether you are a republican or democrat you need around $1 billion dollars in campaign funds to run for president. And that money comes from billionaires, large corporations, unions, environmental groups, ex.ex. And a presidential campaign is a huge mechanism of dirty tricks, political favors, alliances, and big money. And whether your a republican or democrat presidential candidate you don't know everything going on around you in a campaign.
During the campaign Hillary was concerned about raising money, making good speeches, not coughing on stage and the mathematics of winning the election (smearing Donald Trump in the media or FBI was someone else's job.)
And Hillary Clinton was upset that the dossier was not made public before the election, and Hillary would have rather had the American voters know about the dossier (rather than join a conspiracy to give the dossier to the FBI and have the dossier be made public only after the election.) Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics
And even if Hillary was aware of the dossier and knew about the fake dossier being given to the FBI, Hillary still has 2-3 witnesses who claim she knew nothing about it. Do you believe a court will convict Hillary Clinton with those witnesses? Hillary Clinton unaware of dossier before it published - CNNPolitics
And I believe those witnesses would love to testify in court in Clinton's defense, so they would be owed favors by the Clinton's a powerful and wealthy family (and it would appear Hillary already has the dossier charges beat.)
Here's why I wasn't buying the "Trump/Russia" collusion thing when it came out...
What Twitter did, and the Black Lives Matter scandal had a MUCH bigger impact then what the media was claiming the Russians did, even if true!
To scope things out, Twitter was internally sabotaging political movements. The largest youth led political movement of the time "The Movement #TheMovement" was sabotaged by Jack Dorsey himself.
To profit off of the revolutionary movement, Twitter even employed a fraud, Deray McKesson, to impersonate the grassroots movement and mislead the public to believe he was actually "leading it." Just like they did with BLM. And speaking of BLM...
No origins. Funded by Soros and other DNC donors. Used to co-opt and erase the real movement against police corruption and insert a pre-conceived agenda which was not even relevant to the reason there was an uprising in the 1st place. Complete scam. They scammed families who lost loved ones, police corruption victims, activists, and pretty much anyone who doesn't want to be a victim of police corruption.
So with that said, WHY would the DNC be talking about corruption, when they have much more blood on their hands? That's not even including what they did to Bernie and misleading the entire country about control of the DNC. If we were to know what we do now, and look back to Hillary's campaign, everyone would be appalled.
But I digress. See above post. EVEN if Hillary gets exposed, I don't think it'll stop the corruption from the DNC because they get away with it, and the public rarely successfully holds our govt accountable.
The idea that a black life matters as much as a white life is a scandal? The DNC owed Bernie Sanders nothing. Clinton is a life long Democrat while Sanders was a Democrat for 10 minutes. I voted for Sanders in the primary btw.
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