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Originally Posted by moneill
You are just making stuff up in your head.
I have not seen anyone who calls themselves left say this.
You shouldn't make stuff up -- it makes you lose any credibility.
They aren't making stuff up - this is what the left routinely does and has been doing for quite some time. Repubs do it too - blame the other guy - unfortunately it happens less often with repubs because they believe we shouldn't have all these handouts to begin with.
Supposedly, even in 2014 the average cost of childcare for an infant at a daycare center in King County was $17,300. They can also charge what they want because they have a 24 month waiting list at some centers.
Looks like already without the full phase-in of the minimum wage increases in Washington that some parents are already complaining of $300 a month increases if they have two children.
Supposedly, the reason for the increases is the high minimum wages and state subsidies that pay far below the rate of market-rate paying parents which means that they have to increase the rates
Washington State is going to $13.50 minimum wage which of course covers child-care workers.
California will be at $15 plus all FICA taxes, UI taxes, Unemployment Training Fund Taxes, Workers Compensation taxes and also mandatory sick time which adds another 50 cents on for each hour.
Not to mention, health insurance costs.
They also hopefully have janitorial staffs and they will also have to increase the wage for them.
Looks like these parents with children in daycare have not seen anything yet as far as increases. It is also likely that daycares will have to offer more than the minimum wage because there will be other easier jobs that pay at the minimum wage.
Dems seldom look at the affects laws have in the long run.
They aren't making stuff up - this is what the left routinely does and has been doing for quite some time. Repubs do it too - blame the other guy - unfortunately it happens less often with repubs because they believe we shouldn't have all these handouts to begin with.
Link? Show me where someone said this.
I don't make sweeping statements about people who think differently than me because I don't think those people fit into one nice little package.
Dems seldom look at the affects laws have in the long run.
So much of their policies have unintended consequences they never anticipate, never thinking beyond the surface of an issue. The economy is largely based on markets, and economic equilibrium. When government artificially mandates anything like price controls, wage rates, rationing goods, etc it creates a problem. Wages should be based on market rates, not government rates. The number of employees will have to be reduced to enable businesses to remain profitable. That is reality. The quality of service will suffer.
Supposedly, even in 2014 the average cost of childcare for an infant at a daycare center in King County was $17,300. They can also charge what they want because they have a 24 month waiting list at some centers.
Looks like already without the full phase-in of the minimum wage increases in Washington that some parents are already complaining of $300 a month increases if they have two children.
Supposedly, the reason for the increases is the high minimum wages and state subsidies that pay far below the rate of market-rate paying parents which means that they have to increase the rates
Washington State is going to $13.50 minimum wage which of course covers child-care workers.
California will be at $15 plus all FICA taxes, UI taxes, Unemployment Training Fund Taxes, Workers Compensation taxes and also mandatory sick time which adds another 50 cents on for each hour.
Not to mention, health insurance costs.
They also hopefully have janitorial staffs and they will also have to increase the wage for them.
Looks like these parents with children in daycare have not seen anything yet as far as increases. It is also likely that daycares will have to offer more than the minimum wage because there will be other easier jobs that pay at the minimum wage.
Sounds like a supply/demand issue to me.
1) At the 2014 minimum wage, there weren't enough day care workers, because, as you note, there are easier minimum-wage jobs out there. Yet licensed daycare businesses had a waiting list.
2) Note that the minimum wage increase was passed in 2016. Two years after 2014. It will be $11.50 in 2018.
Obviously there are more people who want the service than there are people offering it.
Now I don't doubt that the minimum wage increase will contribute to the problem. But the fact is that daycare cannot be outsourced. We have a high COL here, and daycare workers don't get a pass on paying rent. Here on the island where I live, there are employers who pay the daily ferry fare (nearly $16) for their workers who live off-island because those workers can't afford island rents.
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Originally Posted by antinimby
Watch the Left now try to blame escalating cost of living that they created, on somebody else like Trump.
The Left is good at wanting things done their way, then when it doesn’t work, blame it on the other party.
I don't see how the increasing COL can be blamed on a particular party. LOTS of people are moving here - over 200 people a day. (https://www.geekwire.com/2016/seattl...-gain-century/) I'm not sure why you think that Seattle should be exempt from the economic fact that a booming population results in higher COL, but oh well.
I'm very glad to hear that you and other posters aren't moving here. Maybe if enough people start feeling that way, fewer people will move in, and our COL will stabilize.
Last edited by jacqueg; 02-12-2018 at 06:42 AM..
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