Conservatives need to stop claiming that fascism was a left wing movement (Kennedy, leader)

[wutitiz]

Originally Posted by mtl1

Yeah, socialism doesn't require government ownership of the means of production just regulation and control of it, which was the case in fascist Italy and Japan.

And in 21st century U.S.A.--but Pres. Trump is doing something about that.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by erasure

Well since you can't prove that Hitler is a "left" wing, then obviously the whole Holocaust event is the "right wing" policy.

Gun banning and confiscation, just one example, isn't a right wing thing.

[mtl1]

Originally Posted by wutitiz

And in 21st century U.S.A.--but Pres. Trump is doing something about that.

True lots of government regulation of business also left wing global corporations and the Democrat party increasingly collaborating.

Also American leftist even advocate for their form of eugenics, less white and more latin Americanized with a superior hybridized brown race.

[Hyperthetic]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

That's it in a nutshell. Fascists Hitler and Mussolini believed in the subjugation of the individual to the benefit of the collective society. That's left wing.

My company, which is made of me, contracted with competed contracts, private companies and Government agencies.

The horrid agency that ruined me, by breaching the contract, then handed the contract to a Native American company (Indians and/or Eskimos) at a no-bid contract amount 6 times higher than mine.

Most Native American companies are subcontractors of another Government agency, the Small Business Administration, Section 8(a). The intent, which was fulfilled, caused the expansion of employees by 8 times, mostly white employees.

The "belief" was, that with more employees, the contract could at least accomplish the contract - which didn't happen - and usually doesn't. The Government runs on quantity, not quality. Increase the quota.

This thing is, collectivism replacing competing individualisms. I'm, like, a walking individualism.

The Government's sideways hint to me (wink), was that I would be hired by the Government to manage the over-numbered employee group - not enough work to keep the employees from sleeping on the job, but hey, they're employed! The Government's idea of creating JOBS.

The law requires that the Government cannot switch from competed contracts to 8(a) contracts unless the Government can show that there was no incumbent on the contract for at least a 24 month period. It was critical that the Government had to breach my contract and keep me or any replacement contractor from performing up to a 24 month period.

Once the agency switches to an 8(a) contract, the law prohibits the Government from ever returning to competing the contract.

When the Government breaches its contracts, to bring this about, the breachers involved should be jailed.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by mtl1

Yeah, socialism doesn't require government ownership of the means of production just regulation and control of it, which was the case in fascist Italy and Japan.

Imperial Japan was socialist now. Man, that is some sharp analysis.

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

and their you show your ignorance.... difference between NAZI (socialist/fascist )lefties and neo-Nazi white supremacists (idiots)

Who said they are "White supremacists"? Did the marchers themselves ever state that is their belief system? I've never even heard of anyone declaring such a thing, let alone heard anyone declare it personally.

The most famous white supremacist that I know of in American history is Abraham Lincoln...but he's dead.

I don't think they were supporting Lincoln....and wouldn't they be, if they were actually white supremacists?

[phantompilot]

Originally Posted by Roboteer

Conservatives need to stop claiming that fascism was a left wing movement


Well, no, conservatives actually don't need to stop.

Liberals need conservatives to stop saying it. Because it's too embarrassing for the liberals to face, yet they can't refute it.

A common response to many things people say about them, is for liberals to try to stifle their speech, keep them from talking about whatever issue it is. Particularly if it's true.

Liberals are a violent aggressive bunch of delinquents and sociopaths. (the ones that are most outspoken and show up to conservative events to "protest", by which they ACTUALLY mean, physically interfere with, and attempt to deprive others of their constitutional rights of assembly and speech).

[NCN]

You really need to get over the name calling and realize being conservative is not an illness. It's a way of life where you respect your neighbor is capable enough to take care of themselves and the government shouldn't be a nanny.

[Avondalist]

Originally Posted by mtl1

I do sort of agree with the OP that far right or conservative being a Monarchy, religious and a homogenous people and the far left being Communist and internationalist.

Ok let's run with this.

If monarchy is far right, what does that make feudalism?

Remember in feudalism, most lands were owned by the king, and administration of those lands, and the right to extract money from them via taxes, was delegated to the nobility. The serfs owned nothing but their personal possessions.

If the king was the government, and the king owned all the property, then...the government owned all the property.

Does that make feudalism communist, and the king and his court the politburo?

Again, don't get hung up on individual liberty, property rights, human rights, etc. as markers of right wing politics. They are markers of middle way politics.

If either the right or the left become too powerful, they seize all the property and become a totalitarian government. Liberty is only secured by balancing competing power centers against each other. If one power center becomes too powerful, you are on the road to serfdom.

[sandsthetime]

Originally Posted by NCN

Being conservative is not an illness.

It is a mental disorder.