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Old 02-15-2018, 11:40 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Hey, if she hadn't died from the flu, she might have been shot in school!
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hey, if she hadn't died from the flu, she might have been shot in school!
Too soon.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^ You have to pay into Medicare for 10 years minimum to get coverage. (There are a few exceptions.) Most of us pay in for 40 years or more. It won't be cheap to offer what you want.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:44 PM
 
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US healthcare is great. The issue is how to pay for it. Any system of universal coverage (not universal healthcare) must be paid for. It will of necessity have two components: what benefits it will include and a tax to pay for it.

So far the US has been unwilling to ration benefits, and there is a segment of the population that would rather not have those benefits than be "forced" to pay for it.

A wise friend has pointed out in discussions of this issue that there is no way to pay for all of the health care that Americans want. Part of the rising cost of health insurance is the inclusion of more and more benefits which should probably be paid out of pocket.
Ah, yes. The delusion that health care is not rationed in America, insurers will provide whatever you want as they dont care about profits, and the amount of benefits is just incredible. Look, for-profit health care means hospitals and big pharma can charge whatever they want. Whatever they want. And the "consumers" (sick, desperate, confused people) are easy prey for price gouging. Thats the problem. Not inclusion of more and more "benefits" and that Americans want "too much health care". Americans want to be healthy. Not ask for a cancer treatment every year because its so cheap. Thats not how things work.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:46 PM
 
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^^ You have to pay into Medicare for 10 years minimum to get coverage. (There are a few exceptions.) Most of us pay in for 40 years or more. It won't be cheap to offer what you want.
Nothing is more expensive than a for-profit health care system where the providers are free to price gouge the desperate "consumers" of health care. Its called preying on vulnerable people. Very expensive. And immoral.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You all can debate the American health care / insurance issue all you want.
In this case the woman the woman gambled and lost or was just one of the unlucky ones that no medicine, paid for or free, would have helped.
Her case is just a springboard for yet another rant.
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