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Uhh, you've no idea how NFA items are transferred.... do you?
His job begins with accepting the money, and ends when he delivers the firearm.
The ATF and FBI are responsible for the background check which is quite lengthy...
I purchased suppressors about a year ago... I'm still waiting for my stamps to arrive in the mail to go get them... NFA items are HEAVILY regulated...
His conscience is clear as it should be. Unless you're implying he is responsible for the ATF and FBI dropping the ball...
[b]That personal responsibility thing hasn't quite clicked yet has it...
You have it backward Hoss, you're the one seeking to absolve yourself from personal responsibility. Just because the ATF or FBI approves someone does not absolve you if you have questions about that person's motives. Legally, most likely, morally, not at all.
If bars can be liable under dram shop laws for negligently serving someone too much alcohol who is of age, why shouldn't a gun shop owner be liable for selling a gun to someone he suspects of being unhinged who may have passed a background check?
Do you really think the NRA administration would dare be transparent about such matters?
Naivety, I see is your strong suit!
If the claim is the NRA profits from sales of firearms and ammunition, that means they engage in the business. Per the ATF engaging in the business requires an FFL to manufacture and sell firearms and ammunition. ALSO there is an ITAR tax that has to be paid to the State Department. This is all public information by the way...
Seems like you LIKE the way things are now? Or maybe you want complete societal breakdown where anything does? Funny thing is that in that scenario it's people like you that won't survive long! The Conservative gun-owning ex-military prepper types will out last you by a far margin! Besides, it's not us doing the shootings, it's the left and spawn of the left with all their no-consequences drug induced behavior that does them.
I grew up in the 50's, it's not a time that you should be romanticizing and wishing for a return to. I don't see this 'societal breakdown' that you claim, but that meme does seem to be a chapter in the conservative catechism.
But about this claim that the 'conservative gun owning ex-military' can outlast me? What is that supposed to mean, they can outlast me in a shootout? I'm sure they can because my husband and I don't sit in the living room holding our guns peering out the window looking for the 'invasion' We both own guns and shoot them recreationally, my husband is a decorated ex Marine who served two tours in Vietnam, unlike some of the people in this forum we are not gun obsessed.
So what about a simple romantic stroll in the park? What about a hike along the countryside or perhaps even along the many trailways of our nation's forests? What about taking trains or buses to schools and workplaces? What can we expect once arriving to any of these places safely? Should we even think of venturing outside the security of our homes once we've safely returned?
I do every day and have for 30 years. The last 2 years I have done so with at least a pistol in my waistband.
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Exactly how many mass-shootings can the average American psyche endure, before they begin to erode our normal sense of security within this country?
When gun free zones dissolve and this ugly chaotic nonsense is thwarted and the perpetrators are extinguished on site for attempting nefarious acts against innocent kids.
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Eventually, I predict that our entire economy could be negatively effected by all these mass-shootings.
Entertaiment dollars will dwindle. Mass transit dollars, down! Restaurant profits, gone!
Entertainment dollars have been dwindling ever since the Hollywood elites started their partisan hack jobs on the president. Restaurants nah. I don't go into any that do not permit concealed carry. I support those that do endorse constitutional rights to keep and bear arms...
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I see American life changing as a direct consequence of frequent mass-shootings....
IDK, I can only hope that you're right and I'm wrong!
That's the lemming view and I am sorry you think and feel that way...
You have it backward Hoss, you're the one seeking to absolve yourself from personal responsibility. Just because the ATF or FBI approves someone does not absolve you if you have questions about that person's motives. Legally, most likely, morally, not at all.
If bars can be liable under dram shop laws for negligently serving someone too much alcohol who is of age, why shouldn't a gun shop owner be liable for selling a gun to someone he suspects of being unhinged who may have passed a background check?
Where is the personal responsibility there?
in a bar setting, the server is trained to tell when someone has had too much to drink. but if you were to walk into a gun store, fill out form 4473, and the shop owner calls the information in and gets the green light to sell the firearm from the FBI or ATF, they have satisfied their legal responsibility. as to their moral responsibility, how does one look into the heart of another and try to determine why they want the weapon? are you some kind of betezoid with the ability to read peoples minds?
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