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View Poll Results: Other than the shooter, who do you think is most responsible for the tragedy
Youtube, for deleting the warning comments of someone on the video 1 0.71%
The FBI 19 13.57%
The sheriff and his deputies 19 13.57%
The NRA 21 15.00%
Donald Trump 1 0.71%
The Second Amendment 6 4.29%
The FBI AND the sheriff and deputies and maybe Youtube too 51 36.43%
Other 22 15.71%
Voters: 140. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-22-2018, 04:21 PM
 
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This can't be. I was told that having well trained people with guns on campus would stop school shootings. Here was a well trained LEO that hid outside the building where shooting was happening, and we are supposed to believe that an armed teacher will do better than this trained professional.
Well since the teachers laid down their lives for their students its reasonable to assume if they were armed they might have been able to save other lives as well as their own.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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Hand gun v. Automatic Rifle. I would hide too.
Handguns are what the teachers would have. SROs in Brovard will apparently now by given rifles on school campus.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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It's not a deflection. Why not hold everyone accountable, starting with the shooter and on down the line?
On this thread, we are discussing the armed sheriff who did not engage the shooter, not everything under the sun. That's another thread.

I realize this is a difficult concept for some to grasp, but perhaps with enough reminders.

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Old 02-22-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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And you're damn right I'm emotional! We all should be over this guy. That was his job!
And as we talk he is collecting a pension for not doing it.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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Oh my God!

What a clown show!
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Well since the teachers laid down their lives for their students its reasonable to assume if they were armed they might have been able to save other lives as well as their own.
By making a Hollywood shot in a smoke filled hall with kids running everywhere? Who is teaching those classes, 007?
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Yeah, but Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and others have all been known to have smatterings of urban shootings here and there, but nothing that rises to the level of mass-shootings and killings.

It would appear then, that we all sbould have been more concerned when the victims were black and not white. Is that what you're saying?
A smattering of shootings? More people died in Chicago last year than in the last 4 mass shootings combined.

A lot of us have been concerned about the destruction of Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, and St. Louis. The fact that liberal leadership is more interested in perceived safety than in real safety kind of negates our concern, though.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:25 PM
 
Location: sumter
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I wonder how many teacher could actually pull the trigger on one of their student though. Just a thought, but a split second hesitation could make all the difference. If they are suddenly face to face with a kid they had in their class, how would that impact their decision. And what would their own mental state be after killing a kid, and a kid they knew personally.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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And as we talk he is collecting a pension for not doing it.
I'm still floored. I can't believe it. I wonder if there's anything he could be charged with. I suspect there are some civil lawyers popping out the breath mints.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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it's almost like this is more complicated than simply adding to the supply of available guns at schools and even then nobody knows how they will react until they are in the moment. Maybe instead we could focus on figuring out ways to make it less easy for people with obvious mental health issues to have such easy access to assault weapons...I guess that's asking too much.
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