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Old 02-15-2018, 09:20 PM
 
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Fact: The art was not vandalism, it was painted on the building with permission from the owner

The OWNER. Who can do with HIS property as he wishes.

Fact: The murals have become quite famous, drawing tourists and the like. It has become a landmark.

WAS a landmark. So what?

Fact: The law doesn't say you can't remove art, just that you give advance notice. That's all.

Uh, OK

Fact: The removal of the art overnight in cover of darkness by the owner is what broke the law.

Dumb law

Fact: If the owner had given notices and warnings of the art's removal; allowing it to be photographed and preserved; nothing would have come of it.

Again it was HIS property.

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Which part of the fact that he leased his property to these artists and many others do you not understand? Do leasees have no rights under the law?
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Which part of the fact that he leased his property to these artists and many others do you not understand? Do leasees have no rights under the law?
Fine, show me the lease agreement?
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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1. Make up fact pattern to support outrage
2. Get called out on made up fact patter
3. Deflect
4. Continue to have no credibility

The OP has ticked all of the boxes. Maybe time to shut this one down
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by mtnbkr5 View Post
Fact: The art was not vandalism, it was painted on the building with permission from the owner

The OWNER. Who can do with HIS property as he wishes.

Fact: The murals have become quite famous, drawing tourists and the like. It has become a landmark.

WAS a landmark. So what?

Fact: The law doesn't say you can't remove art, just that you give advance notice. That's all.

Uh, OK

Fact: The removal of the art overnight in cover of darkness by the owner is what broke the law.

Dumb law

Fact: If the owner had given notices and warnings of the art's removal; allowing it to be photographed and preserved; nothing would have come of it.

Again it was HIS property.

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Unlikely. The owner had the new artwork (polar bear in a blizzard) applied on his property at night due to fears of violence and interference by the graffitists.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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Fine, show me the lease agreement?
If you actually want to understand the analysis, Google NYSCEF or SCROLL and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:31 PM
 
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If you actually want to understand the analysis, Google NYSCEF or SCROLL and stop embarrassing yourself.
I understand it fine, I am asking for something the poster claims to exist when it doesn’t.... you can crawl back from where you came...
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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Attacking a poster for mentioning a lease while the analysis is clearly spelled out for you is like tilting at windmills. If it gives you a sense of superiority to pounce upon semantics, all the more power to you. Maybe try pouncing upon the OP with his BS claims of vandalism while you're at it.

But here, in the real world, the opinion is well-reasoned and your hysterics aren't.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:42 PM
 
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Attacking a poster for mentioning a lease while the analysis is clearly spelled out for you is like tilting at windmills. If it gives you a sense of superiority to pounce upon semantics, all the more power to you. Maybe try pouncing upon the OP with his BS claims of vandalism while you're at it.

But here, in the real world, the opinion is well-reasoned and your hysterics aren't.
Lease has nothing to do with it, if that is semantics than perhaps you don’t understand the analysis... how many plaintiffs are there? And these were the original group of people that dealt with the owner? The OP is correct that some of these plaintiffs were in fact, vandals.... I am pretty sure that some of the murals were done by vandals and were also plaintiffs...
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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Lease has nothing to do with it, if that is semantics than perhaps you don’t understand the analysis... how many plaintiffs are there? And these were the original group of people that dealt with the owner? The OP is correct that some of these plaintiffs were in fact, vandals....
You're not a vandal if you're granted a license to use the space, as a matter of definition. I know you think underlying facts are malleable like your synapses, but they aren't.
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Old 02-15-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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You're not a vandal if you're granted a license to use the space, as a matter of definition. I know you think underlying facts are malleable like your synapses, but they aren't.
Granted a license? Did this license also imply that anyone at any time could also put up a “mural”!
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