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" The suspect, 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz, was taken into custody off campus. He slipped out of the school after the shooting by blending in with other students who were trying to escape, according to two law enforcement sources and an eyewitness.
-- Cruz had "countless magazines" and was believed to have an AR-15 rifle, the sheriff said. "
If this information is correct, a 19 year old can not buy a AR-15 in the first place, that is restricted to 21 and above.
So to that where did this 19 year old get the rifle? It means that either lax parents or this 19 year old got the rifle from some other illegal means.
These actions are never justified and the person who did the shooting in totally in the wrong, but lets at least be host in how the got ahold of the rifle in the first place.
Except his parents are dead. He was living with friends. No guidance whatsoever in his life.
Yes, let's arm school kids. As a matter of fact, let's become Brazil or Somalia where everyone is armed. In a a place where everyone is armed no one is safe. What a dystopian future we would have. A country of vigilante fanatics. Guns are a scourge.
Brazil has the gun laws you’d love to have here, yet there are still plenty of guns and violence. What makes you think it would be different here?
If it is a crime, then charge him, bring him into court and convict him, remove his rights.
This is the United States and we are at least civilized to where we have due process of law.
Nonsense. You don't need to be convicted of a crime to be on the no-fly list. If we can prevent people from flying without being convicted of a crime, we can certainly make sure students who are expelled for making threats against other students don't get their hands on weapons like this one.
If you have epilepsy, even epilepsy under control and where you haven't had a seizure in years, you can be prevented from driving even if you haven't been convicted of a crime, because your right to drive does not supercede the potential threat you are to others.
Guns are not special. They are a tool. Their regulation is in the best interest in society and the hyperbolic reaction to pretend that preventing a mentally unstable teen from purchasing an assault rifle is some how special is ridiculous.
His parents are dead. Not sure how he got his gun, but I hope we find out and if criminal charges need to be filed against someone that they are actually filed.
He went to an LGS and bought it. Its legal in fl to own a long gun at 18.
Brazil has the gun laws you’d love to have here, yet there are still plenty of guns and violence. What makes you think it would be different here?
Because no other nation in the world has this unending problem of school shootings. We have some of the most lax gun control laws, and we have hands down the most school shootings.
Additionally, when you look at some of the most populated states (which statistically are more likely to have gun violence) those with the strictest gun laws, also are much less likely to have school shootings. In fact of the 6 heavily populated states with no school shootings even they have some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
NRA would adamantly deny that the gun culture in the USA normalizes gun ownership and use but because folks don't like that liberal Hollywood -- they will be blamed for increased violence in our culture.
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One person's anecdote about increased violence in their country doesn't make for a social trend or fact...it makes for one person's anecdote.
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The theory of violence in movies and games falls flat when you look at countries that have access to the exact same culture and don't have the rates of violence as the USA does.
Canada isn't as violent, doesn't have as many guns and has absolutely positively the SAME movie, video culture.
Guns have always been prevalent here, but these mass shootings didn’t start in high numbers until the Internet and 24/7 media coverage made these people get so much attention. And every time some politician talks about more gun control, thousands line up to buy guns before that happens. Blathering about it only makes the problem worse. I looked on news sites today, and saw a bunch of photos of the shooter and his life story. Now the next person wanting notoriety sees that and thinks maybe he should do it too. He knows he will get plenty of attention.
We need to raise kids as families. I learned to shoot M1 as a kid at West Point NY. At schools, kids had hunting rifles and shotguns in their trucks. Its a cultural issue now. Kids and adults are inundated with gun violence.
Remember, you could go into a grocery store years ago and buy guns, or at Sears.. Societys mindset has screwed kids up to think its okay to throw tantrums, hurt people etc without guilt or remorse.
No, let's don't arm school kids, let's put armed guards in schools. TRAINED armed guards!
Metal detectors have been installed. Didn't work.
Locked doors have been tried. Didn't work.
"Gun Free Zones" have been tried. Dismal failure.
"Active Shooter Drills" have been implemented. Didn't help.
We have armed guards "protecting" everything from banks to gated communities to courthouses, yet the buildings where our precious CHILDREN are concentrated are not guarded at all!
WHY IS THAT?
Well, it is obvious to me that children today are less important than money or houses or judges and lawyers, in spite of all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over guns!
The problem is not the tool, it is the person holding the tool. Restricting the right of law-abiding citizens to own the tool will have no effect on criminals. They, by definition, don't obey the laws anyway!
Metal detectors do work. How many schools have them? I can guarantee not one school that had a mass shooting had metal detectors.
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