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So people on this thread actually believe that Norway, which has had 1, I repeat 1, mass killing in it's history, 7 years ago proves that they have a higher probability of this than the US, which has had 30 just this year? Really?
So everyone on here believes that they are far more likely to suffer a mass attack in Norway than in the US.
I would wager that we will have, and continue to have, more mass shootings than all the other countries of the world combined this year, as we have every year.
This is bordering on the absurd.
And being retired Military, I own guns and support the right of law abiding citizens to own theirs. But reasonable people should be able to agree that something has to be done to stop this senseless slaughter of our kids.
So people on this thread actually believe that Norway, which has had 1, I repeat 1, mass killing in it's history, 7 years ago proves that they have a higher probability of this than the US, which has had 30 just this year? Really?
So everyone on here believes that they are far more likely to suffer a mass attack in Norway than in the US.
I would wager that we will have, and continue to have, more mass shootings than all the other countries of the world combined this year, as we have every year.
This is bordering on the absurd.
And being retired Military, I own guns and support the right of law abiding citizens to own theirs. But reasonable people should be able to agree that something has to be done to stop this senseless slaughter of our kids.
Norway, is just one incident. There are many worldwide where gun ownership is far less than in the U.S.
Guns or no guns as a debate, all our numbers regarding health care and infant mortality, education, social impact, economic, infrastructure, and yes, gun violence puts us bordering the edge of becoming a third world country. It's getting embarrassing. We're so busy arguing about crap we can't take pride in our country, and it's sadly taking its toll.
Living in a country that you fear there's a chance that your child might die to try to get an education from statistics is ridiculous. It really puts the 3rd into our world. We really need to get our crap together and this is definitely part of that picture. (and I'm not a liberal, so save that line)
So what should reasonable people do to stop the insane from breaking the existing laws, including gun laws, and laws against murder?
I would say that it's a combination, as you pointed out, of helping the mentally ill, keeping them from getting weapons, if possible, and teaching our kids better coping/social skills.
I would also say that we need to make a shift culturally away from glorifying violence and insinuating that it's the answer to someone's problems.
The gun debate is moot at this point, the SC has ruled and until that court shifts heavily in the other direction, then there is little to zero chance of the 2nd Amendment being changed on a national level. It remains to be seen what state's decide to do at the state level.
One thing is certain, as the demographics in this country change, and the young people most effected by these tragedies grow up, THEY will change it because all those millennials, gen-xers, gen-y will soon outnumber us boomers at the ballot box and that is probably a very good thing, because they have a very different outlook on life and people.
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One thing is certain, as the demographics in this country change, and the young people most effected by these tragedies grow up, THEY will change it because all those millennials, gen-xers, gen-y will soon outnumber us boomers at the ballot box and that is probably a very good thing, because they have a very different outlook on life and people.
Not so fast.
I'm not aware of any mass shootings when the Baby Boomers were in high school. And guns were easier to get then, than now.
I would say that it's a combination, as you pointed out, of helping the mentally ill, keeping them from getting weapons, if possible, and teaching our kids better coping/social skills.
I would also say that we need to make a shift culturally away from glorifying violence and insinuating that it's the answer to someone's problems.
The gun debate is moot at this point, the SC has ruled and until that court shifts heavily in the other direction, then there is little to zero chance of the 2nd Amendment being changed on a national level. It remains to be seen what state's decide to do at the state level.
One thing is certain, as the demographics in this country change, and the young people most effected by these tragedies grow up, THEY will change it because all those millennials, gen-xers, gen-y will soon outnumber us boomers at the ballot box and that is probably a very good thing, because they have a very different outlook on life and people.
People tend to get more conservative as they age, so don't be so sure younger people will keep their progressive, anti capitalist, government centric views they have now. However, I agree it is a possibility. They would have to amend the Constitution to do anything meaningful, and it may come to that. State actions are all unconstitutional, but the activist courts uphold their illegal laws, and the Supreme Court refuses to hear the cases.
Selected cherry picked data set to skew the one big shooting in norway. 77 people died in a country of 6 million. To get the same rate per million, someone would have to kill over 3500 in the US.
Liberals pervert society, then take people's gun to control the subsequent chaos.
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