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I asked a question. I get to answer and then prove my own question?? That is very generous in a debate. How fair of you to be, in such a heated topic.
You didn't ask a question, you made a statement. Questions end with question marks, which yours did not. So don't get all huffy for being misinterpreted because of your poor English skills.
Unlike our current President who strangely dragged his feet about Russian sanctions even as Republicans voted for a bill in Congress that mandated them, and as recently as November he said that those sanctions were "seriously flawed."
Well the President is in charge of foreign policy not the barnyard animals in Congress. They can pass whatever "resolutions" the hell they wish...he doesn't have to rubber-stamp it and he doesn't need their approval to make foreign policy decisions unless its a treaty.
How do know the "Russians" indicted by Mueller are even real people or really exist?
There isn't any evidence. There isn't any proof.
Look, Mueller could allege anything he wanted to. The alleged miscreants aren't US persons, and aren't in the country. How convenient. The DNC/Swamp could have created every single fictitious person themselves. They sure were talking about it way before anyone had any reason to be suspicious of "foreign interference". It could be them all along. They create the fake personas. They create and manage the fake accounts. They reach out to conservatives, including perhaps people on the Trump campaign.
Then they nark on themselves, and blame Trump.
How could we know this isn't what happened? The entire thing could be just another DNC dirty trick, like their other dirty tricks - like paying mentally ill/homeless to be agitators and incite violence against Trump supporters - we know they actually did that - its on video tape captured by Project Veritas.
We know they sabotaged the Sanders campaign in the primary and rigged it so he couldn't compete. We know that happened.
We know they conspired to obtain the debate questions and give them to Hillary's team to prep. That really happened.
So how do we know this "russian troll farm" thing isn't just another Democrat Dirty Trick?
The truth: we can't know. It fits their pattern of deceptive underhanded sleazy behavior.
Look, Mueller could allege anything he wanted to. The alleged miscreants aren't US persons, and aren't in the country. How convenient. The DNC/Swamp could have created every single fictitious person themselves. They sure were talking about it way before anyone had any reason to be suspicious of "foreign interference". It could be them all along. They create the fake personas. They create and manage the fake accounts. They reach out to conservatives, including perhaps people on the Trump campaign.
Then they nark on themselves, and blame Trump.
How could we know this isn't what happened? The entire thing could be just another DNC dirty trick, like their other dirty tricks - like paying mentally ill/homeless to be agitators and incite violence against Trump supporters - we know they actually did that - its on video tape captured by Project Veritas.
We know they sabotaged the Sanders campaign in the primary and rigged it so he couldn't compete. We know that happened.
We know they conspired to obtain the debate questions and give them to Hillary's team to prep. That really happened.
So how do we know this "russian troll farm" thing isn't just another Democrat Dirty Trick?
The truth: we can't know. It fits their pattern of deceptive underhanded sleazy behavior.
How do we know that any of us is even real? Maybe we're all holographs. Maybe we're all figments of the great Cosmos's mind.
All I can say to this is the technology does exist to do exactly what you are talking about. Using computers you can literally conjure a person out of thin air, right down to a completely realistic picture of the non-existent man/woman you have created. And because this sort of tech exists, there also exists the possibility that stories like this can be totally fabricated. But, having said that, there is also no evidence at this time that these are not real people that have been indicted by Mueller. If such evidence ever surfaces, perhaps we might give this idea a bit more thought.
Look, Mueller could allege anything he wanted to. The alleged miscreants aren't US persons, and aren't in the country. How convenient. The DNC/Swamp could have created every single fictitious person themselves. They sure were talking about it way before anyone had any reason to be suspicious of "foreign interference". It could be them all along. They create the fake personas. They create and manage the fake accounts. They reach out to conservatives, including perhaps people on the Trump campaign.
Then they nark on themselves, and blame Trump.
How could we know this isn't what happened? The entire thing could be just another DNC dirty trick, like their other dirty tricks - like paying mentally ill/homeless to be agitators and incite violence against Trump supporters - we know they actually did that - its on video tape captured by Project Veritas.
We know they sabotaged the Sanders campaign in the primary and rigged it so he couldn't compete. We know that happened.
We know they conspired to obtain the debate questions and give them to Hillary's team to prep. That really happened.
So how do we know this "russian troll farm" thing isn't just another Democrat Dirty Trick?
The truth: we can't know. It fits their pattern of deceptive underhanded sleazy behavior.
Another one who doesn't understand that Mueller and Rosenstein are Republicans?
it doesnt matter, like rush was saying last week, they have to blame somebody, they cant just say " we have nothing" that why the big deal about lying to fbi agents and other charges that doesnt have anything to do with trump. They got to pin someone so they justifly the money spend. and what better way, charge somebody, nobody knows.
All I can say to this is the technology does exist to do exactly what you are talking about. Using computers you can literally conjure a person out of thin air, right down to a completely realistic picture of the non-existent man/woman you have created. And because this sort of tech exists, there also exists the possibility that stories like this can be totally fabricated. But, having said that, there is also no evidence at this time that these are not real people that have been indicted by Mueller. If such evidence ever surfaces, perhaps we might give this idea a bit more thought.
Right, but there is also no evidence that there is, and that's the far more unusual piece of evidence to be missing. You wouldn't EXPECT there to be evidence that a person doesn't exist. You DO expect evidence that a person is a real person. There isn't any reason to conceal any evidence that would substantiate the authentic and real nature of the defendants...other than that there isn't any. These people are not present in the US (how convenient. That way there is no risk of any of them being say, arrested and dragged into court), so the odds they are going to ever be on trial is basically nil.
Again....convenient. You could concoct nearly any narrative around such a situation. The suspect doesn't need to exist for the narrative to be effective. Which is fishy. Julian Assange isn't in the US either. But he's a real person. So is Snowden...also not in the US. But we know they are real people. How is it that nobody knows who these mysterious "russians" are?
Easiest and simplest answer? The one that fits Occam's Razor? There aren't any mysterious Russians. And good luck proving there are!
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Another one who doesn't understand that Mueller and Rosenstein are Republicans?
They might be RINOs. They are certainly Swamp Rats.
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How do know the "Russians" indicted by Mueller are even real people or really exist?
