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Old 02-17-2018, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by phantompilot View Post
But FB has already said that the total ad spend of "Russians" on their platform was about 15K USD. That's not enough to reach very many people. The idea this miniscule amount of spending influenced the election significantly compared to the tens of millions spent by Americans in the same election on the same platform...it doesn't make any sense. Because if it did, then the Russians are the MASTERS, world champs bar none, at online ads. And everyone, from politicians, to Procter & Gamble, needs to hire that Russian "troll farm" and replace their current Ad agency.

Move over, Ogilvy, "The Russians are coming!"
It has nothing to do with how much was spent, and nobody said they changed the election. If ANY money was spent with criminal intent, a crime was committed, and anyone who knew about that crime or assisted them is as guilty of it as they are.

We'll probably know after the next wave of indictments. Stay tuned.

 
Old 02-17-2018, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Liberals were crying about the 2nd amendment before any Russian interference
So you acknowledge the Russian interference then?

Super! The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have it.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Doesn't matter if you're aware or not....do you object to foreigners trying to influence our elections or just the ones that oppose your candidate?

p.s. Millions of Mexican foreigners voted in our election which a much larger influence than so called Russian bots that Obama allowed to allegedly influence our election.
Don't bother looking. I found it. I kind of figured this is where the sewage was seeping out.

Nobody with a functioning brain is ever going to believe anything the bloggers on this tabloid put out.

https://www.infowars.com/report-thre...llegal-aliens/
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Demoralized? When Robert Mueller is in the process of proving us absolutly correct about the Russians over the protests of the O'Reilly/Hannity/Fox/Alex Jones/Roger Stone/Conservative Tree House/ZeroHedge crowd? Russian intereference in the election has been proven. Now we wait to see whether there was any coordination between the indicted Russians and any member of the Trump campaign, which will mean that there absolutely was collusion.

Hardly demoralized. But we are mad as hell, being Americans who care about what happens to our country.

You should join us.
The Russians have been "interfering" with us for almost 100 years, and now it's a "problem" with you deluded leftists? Seems like some selective outrage to me.

I've posted the following link a few times here already, but none of you care to comment on it, so here goes again...The Reality of Red Subversion, by Stephen J. Sniegoski - The Unz Review

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
Stephen J. Sniegoski • September 1, 2003

".... Today our entire Corporate Media is shrilly proclaiming—on the basis of absolutely no public evidence—that Christian Russia is on the verge of subverting and seizing control of the American government via the election of Donald Trump. It is therefore highly ironic that in the past all of these same media organs had viciously attacked and ridiculed those who presented the strong evidence that Communist Russia actually did come close to subverting and seizing control of the American government during the 1930s and 1940s, never fully acknowledging their grievous error. The massive documentation behind this undeniable historical fact has been provided across numerous scholarly books, but much of it is helpfully summarized in this monograph by Dr. Stephen Sniegoski, which is therefore worth republishing. —Ed...."


"...In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.


During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.


From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism...." cont..
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Just ****ing get over it, Hillary LOST, the Soviets fell in the 1990's, and what's LEFT over is all you deranged "progressives" yelling Russia, Russia, Russia with your hair on fire.


You people are looking more pathetic every day you keep pushing this bull****! November is coming, and STILL you have no campaign platform of ideas other than your conspiracies....pathetic!
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:14 AM
 
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got to blame someone so we might as well blame those pesky Russians... let's start another communist witch-hunt --- oh wait -- that's the end-goal for liberals -- scratch that.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Originally Posted by CBeisbol View Post
Can we conclude that Russia believes that increased support for the 2nd amendment is bad for America?

Do you believe that increased support for the 2nd amendment is bad for America?
They see how divided we are and they are trying to make it worse. Evidence was uncovered that they were behind a "Resistance" protest in NYC the same day they were behind a "Support our new president!" march.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by SeaMaj7 View Post
The Russians have been "interfering" with us for almost 100 years, and now it's a "problem" with you deluded leftists? Seems like some selective outrage to me.




Just ****ing get over it, Hillary LOST, the Soviets fell in the 1990's, and what's LEFT over is all you deranged "progressives" yelling Russia, Russia, Russia with your hair on fire.


You people are looking more pathetic every day you keep pushing this bull****! November is coming, and STILL you have no campaign platform of ideas other than your conspiracies....pathetic!
If proven Russian interference in our elections isn't a big deal to you, we can pretty much figure out whose side you're on, comrade. It isn't a theory any more, it's a fact. And if any of Trumps' flunkies knew any of the Russians named in the indictments of had any contact with any of the businesses, we will know for certain that there was collusion and that they were traitors.

It's kind of like going to the movies on Saturday when I was a kid and they would run a short segment of a film that always ended in a cliffhanger to bring you back the following week. We'll have to wait for the next wave of indictments to be unsealed to find out what happens to the hero in this drama.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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If proven Russian interference in our elections isn't a big deal to you, we can pretty much figure out whose side you're on, comrade. It isn't a theory any more, it's a fact. And if any of Trumps' flunkies knew any of the Russians named in the indictments of had any contact with any of the businesses, we will know for certain that there was collusion and that they were traitors.

It's kind of like going to the movies on Saturday when I was a kid and they would run a short segment of a film that always ended in a cliffhanger to bring you back the following week. We'll have to wait for the next wave of indictments to be unsealed to find out what happens to the hero in this drama.
Dream on, and shout at the sky.

The collusion with Russia was between Hillary, and a British ex~spy Steele. HELLO?!?!?!?
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Dream on, and shout at the sky.

The collusion with Russia was between Hillary, and a British ex~spy Steele. HELLO?!?!?!?
If you haven't read the dossier and Glenn Simpson's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee (which I can tell from your post you have not), please do. You owe it to yourself to be informed and that means going to source documents wherever they are available.

When you get through reading them, come back and we'll talk.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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If you haven't read the dossier and Glenn Simpson's testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee (which I can tell from your post you have not), please do. You owe it to yourself to be informed and that means going to source documents wherever they are available.

When you get through reading them, come back and we'll talk.
You still avoid talking about what I posted...."During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.


From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism.
"

Your pos "dossier" is GARBAGE, and that is ALL that needs to be said of it.
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