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its not that you have the right to bear arms, that is a right from god and human nature to protect yourself, any means possible.
the second amendment is telling the government, dont go there, the government doesnt have the right to take away guns. its not a human individual right, its telling government that they have no power in this area.
Decades of peace and security and inferior agenda-driven school systems and universities have eroded what people understand about oppressive governments.
No, my Dad who fought in WWII knew exactly what an oppressive government was. And I who joined the Army years ago know exactly what a oppressive government is. So please don't insult me. The power you think you have does not come from the possession of a gun. To think that you and your popgun could stand up to the military might of the government is ludicrous. No. Your power comes from your vote. Your power comes from the ability to make your case in the way our country is governed. Should you prevail and make your case for the status quo. Well, that's to bad for me. But you have exercised your true power and I will have to move on. But if I make my case and the majority agrees with me, well, that's what power is in this country. It does not come from the point of a gun no matter what the NRA tells you.
The Ar-15 is not a common hunting gun in the true sense of the word hunting. The Ar-15 has been adapted to what might be called hunting by owners desperate to shoot their new toy at something. Once again playing soldier.
Explain that to the millions of American hunters that use them. Yes, millions. Most popular rifle platform in America.
The founding fathers had no way of predicting the advancement in weapons nor could they predict that their intent would be twisted/preverted by modern industries that would profit from these weapons misuse in peace time. To say that all weapons are created without a specific purpose is pure folly. NO private citizen needs military/police style weapons except to play Rambo or soldier.
Well for that matter do you think that there will be any advancements in technology than from what we have today? If you answer yes to that question, then why would that be any different from the way people thought back then?
I dare you to answer no unless you don't and making a complete fool out of yourself.
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Like all those that voted for Hillary, and the way she and the DNC kept our democratic government stable and honest. Ask Bernie Sanders his opinion about that.
The issue being debated has NOTHING to do will Hillary or Donald or the DNC or RNC or Bernie or Jeb.
No, my Dad who fought in WWII knew exactly what an oppressive government was. And I who joined the Army years ago know exactly what a oppressive government is. So please don't insult me. The power you think you have does not come from the possession of a gun. To think that you and your popgun could stand up to the military might of the government is ludicrous. No. Your power comes from your vote. Your power comes from the ability to make your case in the way our country is governed. Should you prevail and make your case for the status quo. Well, that's to bad for me. But you have exercised your true power and I will have to move on. But if I make my case and the majority agrees with me, well, that's what power is in this country. It does not come from the point of a gun no matter what the NRA tells you.
Your power comes from all of the amendments, and the rationale behind them. All of them. The entire bill of rights.
Oh jesus...well, just because it says "god given" doesn't mean that god actually gives these freedoms but if that's what you believe then where is the critical thinking here? There weren't atheists back then? So is this written literally or is there any give at all?
It doesn't say God given. The preamble to the Declaration of Independence states "we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights". It doesn't say we are endowed by our government or endowed by an elected body of individuals. It specifically states that we are endowed by "our creator".
The reason being that no one other than "our creator", whomever or whatever they may be can rescind those certain inalienable rights. The Constitution which is the law of the land specifies what those rights are in the Bill of Rights. This has absolutely nothing to do with religion or a belief in God. All public officials are sworn to uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights as the laws of the land "so help them God".
It doesn't matter whether you're an atheist or not. It's the basic principle of which this nation was founded. It is not that difficult to understand. You may not like it or completely disagree with it. But it is what it is and no amount of wishful thinking can change that. By the way, where is your critical thinking?
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