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Old 02-23-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Amazing.
What? I'm obviously not a Trump fan. He's the Orange Obama.

I just think it's completely hypocritical that we have our panties all bunched up in our hoo-haas when the U.S. government has caused more death and destruction around the world over the last 120 years (since the Spanish-American War) than all other nations on earth combined. When the U.S. government has directly interfered in sovereign nations over 80 times in the last 100 years.

It's called Karma, and I welcome it.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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It was Comey who destroyed her campaign and Comey alone. She would have won if not for that memo sent out on a Friday for God knows why. She never recovered from that. A lot of fence riders voted Trump after that.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:16 PM
 
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3,000 dead bodies in Chile from 1973-90 courtesy of your tax dollars.

Justify it.

I'll wait.
I don't. Because it was probably wrong. JUST LIKE THIS.

Two wrongs dont make a right. Please explain to me how you try and justify that if you think Chile was wrong.

I'll wait.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I know right? They defend defend defend, deny it...but then when its clear that no longer works, they find some new justification. Its mind boggling isnt it
Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

Justify it.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: The South
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If Bret Baier had said it, maybe. shep smith, nope.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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What's so amazing about that list?

That he left off Pinochet?

Ok, add him to the list of puppets "aided" by the U.S. government.

And didn't Pinochet's coup replace a democratically-elected President? I thought the U.S. was all about democracy all over the world? Or is that only when the "right guy" gets elected?

Also, how about you touch on Pinochet's body count? Sure, not as impressive as others but someone gotta bat 9th in the order.
No, its the idea that we deserve to be whipped and that we might as well accept our fate as a third world dupe to be manipulated by stronger powers.

That is what is being argued.

What are you telling us is to surrender to Russian aggression?

The irony of the position that we deserve what we get is no different than an apology tour and engaging in self-immolation for our sins.

I'll take the conservative position and say FU to the Russians and defend ourselves . Not the Trumpist position of bending over and taking it.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:20 PM
 
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Only a true patriot and standup American would welcome foreign powers meddling in our democratic process under the simpletonian auspices of “karma”. The Founding Fathers would be proud to know that the same people fighting tooth and nail to maintain their hobby of collecting weapons of war despite the societal cost under the guise of needing to keep the big bad US government at bay are here welcoming a foreign power’s clandestine attempts to undermine the democratic process. You can almost taste the vomit in James Madison’s mouth.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:22 PM
 
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I don't care if your panties are bunched up in your hypocritical hoo-haas or not.

I don't care if the U.S is guilty of crimes against humanity for generations.

I don't care if the U.S. meddled in every Russian election for the last forty years.

I still don't want Russian oligarchs involved in our elections and I damn sure don't want a Kremlin stooge in the WH.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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No, its the idea that we deserve to be whipped and that we might as well accept our fate as a third world dupe to be manipulated by stronger powers.

That is what is being argued.

What are you telling us is to bend over to Russian aggression.

The irony of the position that we deserve what we get is no different than an apology tour and engaging in self-immolation for our sins.
I'm telling you that there are no "good guys" and "bad guys" in a game that is all about undermining people, murdering, raping, torturing, etc.

Why is it such a big deal when a foreign government does what the U.S. does?

Trump is a statist. By definition he is pure evil.

Ok, so you want me to keep playing the game? Acceptable winners and losers and body counts...yeah...that's a helluva game.

See that Albright clip above.
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Old 02-23-2018, 04:25 PM
 
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Madeleine Albright says 500,000 dead Iraqi Children was "worth it" wins Medal of Freedom


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE

Justify it.
You can keep up this nonsense. But honest to god, it doesnt change reality. If something is wrong, playing whataboutism does not suddenly make it right. Its a deflection technique.

YOU refused to respond to me.. I answered you on Chile. How are you planning on answering me when I ask you to justify it? The answer is-you won't. You arent trying to discuss the topic, you are trying to deflect from it, and accuse folks of things. Step up. I answered you, im not going to keep doing it. If something is wrong it is wrong. You're trying to derail the topic here. Why?
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