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Old 02-21-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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It could be that Gates flipped on the lawyer. Hard to say.
Yes---that is what I heard on news shows today
That the timing of the "interchange" could likely be tied to campaign interchange w/Russians since Gates stayed with campaign after Manafort was forced out by the news stories about his involvement in dirty Ukraine dealings and he had ties to this guy through the Ukraine dealings who has histies to Putin through Alfa Bank and his FIL...

Trump's "people" are usually personal relationships grown over time
The guys who put the Russian attorney in Trump Tower were long time friends/investors with Trump who have ties because of their business/history w/Russia and other Eastern European actors...
These people are all "friends of a friend"
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:04 PM
 
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I wouldn't bet that KHAN derives from Cohen---
More likely from Khan as in Genghis...
My bet's on Cohen - Khan's Jewish background is no secret, and he has been very generous to various Jewish charities in Russia and Ukraine (trying to salve his conscience with the Almighty?).

It's immaterial to me what his origins are, and I hope whatever his religious background and ethnicity may be does not get used by bigots to smear others of these backgrounds. It's his behavior and connections in this world, not the next, that concern me.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:07 PM
 
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My bet's on Cohen - Khan's Jewish background is no secret, and he has been very generous to various Jewish charities in Russia and Ukraine (trying to salve his conscience with the Almighty?).

It's immaterial to me what his origins are, and I hope whatever his religious background and ethnicity may be does not get used by bigots to smear others of these backgrounds. It's his behavior and connections in this world, not the next, that concern me.
His heritage didn't make him commit any crimes---so yes--that is immaterial to me as well---

I would not think any family w/ Jewish ties of any sort would want to give a German name to a son--especially after what the Germans did to Russia during WWII...
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:11 PM
 
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Is this probe even about collusion anymore? I find Mueller's charges amusing and pathetic, Flynn is about to get his overturned I bet bc of Mueller's desperate tactics
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:20 PM
 
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I find Mueller's charges amusing and pathetic
When Trump said he would be the Law and Order president, did the Trumpists think he meant the TV series? Now that criminals are being indicted, it's pathetic to the Trumpists. Poor snowflakes.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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This investigation is about the Russians interfering in our elections, who conspired with them, and all crimes that come out of this investigation.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...r-special.html

Why this has to be repeated constantly is somewhat of a mystery.

Mueller is not desperate.

Flynn's charges are not getting overturned.

If all of this bores you, >>yawn<< there's a lively thread on whether the teens speaking out about the massacre in Florida are actors.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Is this probe even about collusion anymore? I find Mueller's charges amusing and pathetic, Flynn is about to get his overturned I bet bc of Mueller's desperate tactics
Desperate is the last thing i would characterize Mueller as being.
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Old 02-21-2018, 02:25 PM
 
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Is this probe even about collusion anymore? I find Mueller's charges amusing and pathetic, Flynn is about to get his overturned I bet bc of Mueller's desperate tactics
In your dreams--
Posted link to story explaining why the judge issued that order
It does not mean Flynn is going to have anything overturned
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Old 02-21-2018, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Manafort worked at Bayrock with Felix Sater in real estate development. They had ties to the Trump organization, and also to a lot of Russians with money. When real estate changes hands above the market price in order to make a "donation" to the owner when it would be illegal/immoral/fattening to do so in the open, it is called "money laundering".

Manafort bought a condo in Trump Tower, and his purchase happened to coincide with an influx of shady Russian money. Later Manafort became Trump's campaign manager, but took no salary, a highly unusual action for a man totally obsessed with money. Coincidence?

This may help explain it.

https://www.wnyc.org/story/paul-mana...ate-purchases/
You missed the fact that Manafort also worked with the Putin funded Ukrainian Oligarch names Firtash and the two rigged the election in the Ukraine so Russia could take The Crimea.
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Old 02-21-2018, 05:15 PM
 
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Practice for the US and interfering in other elections--
Maybe not with Manafort since he seemed to specialize in the Eastern Bloc but certainly with other people who are willing to do anything for money....
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