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Old 05-17-2020, 08:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Does anyone exactly know what the Hell ObamaGate is? We keep hearing Trump talk about it but is there an actual crisis or is this Trump trying to divert from the Covid-19 crisis?
She explains in in a summarized briefing.





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Old 05-17-2020, 08:45 PM
 
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No crime was committed. The president can do whatever he wants according to the president.

Article II

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Old 05-17-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is it physically exhausting trying so hard to miss the point or are you just obtuse when resting?

I'm talking about the FBI violating the law, specifically Section 702 of the FISA, by illegally searching NSA databases and unmasking US citizens and the FISA court reporting on those crimes and trying to order reforms. This has nothing to do with Flynn or even the type of unmasking done to him. These searches were of any and all communications of the target even without a foreigner on the other side.

Those criminal acts were being done before Trump came down the escalator (actually back to 2012 -- IRS targeting), continued thorough the 2016 campaign directed against many Republicans and Trump and his people and continued right into the Mueller investigation. . . Literally millions of times, "in non-compliance with the new requirements". Those requirements being the ordered reforms from the last FISA court ruling, the one where it noted that of the tens of thousands of searches done between Nov '15 to April '16, 85% were illegal.


It was "a plot by Obama" . . .


FISA Courts have been subject to abuse, not my point. But when it comes to Trump it’s some sort of conspiracy that was specifically directed at Page. If you think these unmasking were anything but SOP then let Barr make his case.
 
Old 05-17-2020, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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FISA Courts have been subject to abuse, not my point. But when it comes to Trump it’s some sort of conspiracy that was specifically directed at Page. If you think these unmasking were anything but SOP then let Barr make his case.

The "small group" cabal desperately needed a FISA warrant. They would do (and did) anything to get an application approved by the FISC.

Page was simply crowned the Prom King, primarily because he was personally mentioned in the Steele dossier. Page was just the means to an end. He never was a real target or suspect, he was the unlucky conduit to obtain a FISA on anyone that had electronic communications with the Trump campaign / inner circle.

That warrant was absolutely necessary because it would get the FBI an 18 month look-back and a "two hop" look at everyone Page was in communication with and then everyone they were in communication with.

This [illegally obtained] legal access to the communications of tens of thousands of people was needed to try to build a plausible "legal" footing (AKA cover-up) over all the illegal FISA §702(16)(17) searches the "small group" had been doing for political purposes going back into 2015.

The Page warrant was a desperate attempt to keep their illegal activity hidden. A little massaging of things and everyone they were illegally spying on would appear in Page's two-hop records and could be represented as having surveillance permission being obtained under the Page warrant. The three 90 day renewals helped, keeping the two hop alive for nearly a year more, well into the Mueller investigation.

Here's the ACLU's explanation of the "two hop rule":
"If, for example, a surveillance target has talked to 200 different people in the last 18 months (a low estimate based on our informal sampling), and if each of those 200 people has also called or been called by 200 different people, then a two-hop request would vacuum up records relating to 40,000 people. And it only gets worse if one of the numbers in the first hop belongs to a high-volume caller . . . ."

ACLU, Are "Two Hops" Too Many?

You better prepare yourself for the reckoning that's coming.








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Old 05-17-2020, 10:42 PM
 
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I'm sure you'll be saying the same when and if arrest warrants are issued for Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Struczk, Biden or Obama.
You people keep saying these things, but it never happens. You've been had. Wise up.
 
Old 05-17-2020, 11:39 PM
 
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Obamagate is like Hillary’s emails.

The fact that shes not locked up shows that Trump to his base is like when a dog is playing fetch with his owner. Only that the owner is pretending to throw the ball only for the dog to run into the direction it thought the ball went, look around confused then run back to it’s owner with a wagging tail.
Which emails? The ones she scrubbed or the ones on the phones her staffers smashed with hammers?
 
Old 05-17-2020, 11:51 PM
 
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:53 PM
 
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Which emails? The ones she scrubbed or the ones on the phones her staffers smashed with hammers?
The one where Trump was supposed to hire a special prosecutor...
 
Old 05-18-2020, 04:49 AM
 
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Yeah, it was part of his job to do so. Obama holdovers intent on destroying Trump's presidency had nothing on Flynn so they set up a perjury trap disguised as an informal meeting between colleagues. The corrupt players at the FBI coordinated this operation with the orders to proceed coming from the very top.

That satchel of docs Grenell delivered to the DOJ? Yeah, it was full. The fun is just beginning.
Trump really should have cleaned house better when he came in office. As we watch this unfold, many of the 'insider culprits' being exposed now were leftovers from from the Obama administration.
 
Old 05-18-2020, 04:56 AM
 
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You people and your IMPEACHED King Cheetos are so jealous of President Obama.
You people are so into impeachment you IGNORE what it is.


Impeachment ONLY means TO BE CHARGED. He was ALSO ACQUITTED.
A minor detail to "you people".

Millions of people are "charged" every day.
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