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I wonder how many billions of guns are outside of the United States. Not like they would melt away if they somehow crossed the border either. Also not like the the borders of the USA can be 100% secured, even with the "best wall"
There are LOTS of guns in Mexico too, but they are actually illegal there. Laws don't stop them.
If you want to kill, you'll find a way. The whole point is to make it harder. If all it takes is a 30 minute drive out of Chicago to get a gun, then it's not much of a deterrent. If you have to rely on arms smugglers to get them, the price goes up, the risk goes up, and your options are significantly more limited.
If you want to kill, you'll find a way. The whole point is to make it harder. If all it takes is a 30 minute drive out of Chicago to get a gun, then it's not much of a deterrent. If you have to rely on arms smugglers to get them, the price goes up, the risk goes up, and your options are significantly more limited.
the whole point is you are making it harder on the people that abide by the laws..;.
criminals and crazies don't care... they will get the guns....
why is it liberals want to hurt the law abiding citizens??
...and they can't be used for self defense. In fact no firearm can be used for self defense in countries like Australia. Can't even carry mace or a pocket knife.
that's great if you are male, 6'5, 240 lbs, not so much if you are 5'4 90 lbs.
I wonder how many billions of guns are outside of the United States. Not like they would melt away if they somehow crossed the border either. Also not like the the borders of the USA can be 100% secured, even with the "best wall"
There are LOTS of guns in Mexico too, but they are actually illegal there. Laws don't stop them.
Obama sent allot of M16s/M4's to Mexico, and South America.
Now, go to crap hole like ME and see how many weapons are there. Everywhere you go, you see fully auto AK's and MP5s etc. We are restricted here. Even Canada is more lenient on some gun issues, compared to us.
If you want to kill, you'll find a way. The whole point is to make it harder. If all it takes is a 30 minute drive out of Chicago to get a gun, then it's not much of a deterrent. If you have to rely on arms smugglers to get them, the price goes up, the risk goes up, and your options are significantly more limited.
And crime goes up as hoods try to get the money to pay inflated black market gun prices.
A $500 dollar gun in America sells for $2000 in El Salvador... don't see crime rates going down there, do we?
AR platforms will eventually be banned.
Then the next "most dangerous gun" will be targeted. My money is on more traditional looking hunting rifles, especially if they're scoped. They'll be renamed sniper rifles though. Just like the ARs were relabeled "assault rifles" and now "weapons of mass destruction".
Then semi-auto and pump shotguns will become "the most dangerous gun". And so on down through the types.
Handguns of all types will thrown into the mix at some point.
Geting rid of all guns has been the end game since it started.
Bad news if you are one of those people that think old-school hunting type firearms are OK and protected under the Constitution but that "weapons of war" like the AR-15 are too deadly and should be banned.
Bolt-action rifles are the #1 most commonly used firearms for target shooting and hunting virtually anything that doesn't fly. They were developed around the turn of the century specifically as weapons of war due to their high power (most use full power cartridges with twice the range and 2-3 times the wounding capability of the AR's dinky .223 round) and rapid fire capabilities. During both World Wars, bolt-action rifles were far and away the most common weapons put in the hands of soldiers of both sides and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) died on the wrong end of one.
The example above is an Enfield Mk4... the UK's main service rifle during WW2. It hold 10 rounds (the same # that most want to limit bullet capacity to) and can be loaded by swapping out mags or pushing in 10 rounds all at once from a stripper clip from the top; either can be done in seconds.
So after you "liberate" America from the scourge semi-auto military rifles what are you gonna go after next? What will happen when another nutbag goes "mad minute" on innocents with his bolt action and kills just as many?
Simple. Now that you have pointed this out, the logical answer is to put restrictions on the design of any gun or gun accessory, bolt-action, semi-automatic, whatever - to limit the sustained or cyclic rate of fire. Wouldn't that make the most sense?
the whole point is you are making it harder on the people that abide by the laws..;.
criminals and crazies don't care... they will get the guns....
why is it liberals want to hurt the law abiding citizens??
Why is it that conservatives don't care about dead children and other law-abiding citizens mowed down by guns?
Again, a black market complicates things. As a normal middle-class citizen, if I couldn't buy a gun from the store, I would have no idea where to go. How many of these mass shootings were done by prior criminals? As far as I know, most of these guys had clean records. So a black market to them would be significantly harder to come across.
Simple. Now that you have pointed this out, the logical answer is to put restrictions on the design of any gun or gun accessory, bolt-action, semi-automatic, whatever - to limit the sustained or cyclic rate of fire. Wouldn't that make the most sense?
Okay, now do that in a way that won't infringe on the Supreme Court's definition of the 2nd Amendment and get it to work across thousands of firearms designs and on 300 million guns.
While you're at it, get me a flying car and a vacation on Mars... it's the future and I was supposed to be able to do that stuff by now.
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What will happen?
