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Old 02-22-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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So you want to say that 100 Russians on Facebook have more convincing power than CNN? And even so, what is the problem here? We can have real Nazis with swastikas marching in Jewish suburb, so we cannot tolerate 100 Russian trolls? Did we repeale 1A?
I didn't say that at all.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:23 PM
 
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The woman is an idiot. Unwitting idiot, but idiot none the less.
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Old 02-22-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Why aren't Undecided voters going to go on Facebook and to other social media websites, for information on political candidates.

We don't really know how much influence Russia's misinformation efforts had on the campaign, but we do know from this little old lady how much some people want to deny that they were influenced by Russian propaganda.
What I bolded is the main problem, though. We don't really know how much misinformation influenced anything. It's all just smoke and mirrors at this point and fingerpointing.


Like I said, if Hil wanted to win, she did everything in her power to lose on her own. Nothing to do with Russia. Hate or love Trump, the guy railed and campaigned everywhere in 2016. Hillary didn't because she thought she had it in the bag. At some point, we gotta stop pointing fingers at Russia and she has to look in the mirror at herself, and we have to move on. It's been over a year now.
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Old 02-22-2018, 01:27 PM
 
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What I bolded is the main problem, though. We don't really know how much misinformation influenced anything. It's all just smoke and mirrors at this point and fingerpointing.


Like I said, if Hil wanted to win, she did everything in her power to lose on her own. Nothing to do with Russia. Hate or love Trump, the guy railed and campaigned everywhere in 2016. Hillary didn't because she thought she had it in the bag. At some point, we gotta stop pointing fingers at Russia and she has to look in the mirror at herself, and we have to move on. It's been over a year now.
I'm completely past Secretary Clinton losing. Moving on does not mean ignoring what Russia did. It has to be investigated and made known, and people need to be wary of Russian attempts to influence the next election.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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I didn't say that at all.
So what is the problem here? Why Russians cannot influence on USA voters, and USA can influence on Ukraine, Russian or Israeli voters?
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:45 PM
 
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So what is the problem here? Why Russians cannot influence on USA voters, and USA can influence on Ukraine, Russian or Israeli voters?
Please. I'm not arguing about USA interceding in other countries' elections. I'm pointing out that it is 100% legitimate to be concerned about American elections, about foreign influence, about misinformation, about the abuse of social media. Your defense of these things is on you.
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Old 02-22-2018, 03:48 PM
 
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She should have thrown a hot fire cracker between his legs to get him to shut up.
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Old 02-22-2018, 04:06 PM
 
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Obviously the little old lady is more dangerous/has more influence.

You might be quite correct about that.
Don't **** off the old folks.
They go out to vote en masse.
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Old 02-22-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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So what is the problem here? Why Russians cannot influence on USA voters, and USA can influence on Ukraine, Russian or Israeli voters?
Their methodology broke US laws.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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Please. I'm not arguing about USA interceding in other countries' elections. I'm pointing out that it is 100% legitimate to be concerned about American elections, about foreign influence, about misinformation, about the abuse of social media. Your defense of these things is on you.
It's part of the game. It's the price for having an open society with freedom of speech.
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