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It s the parts that make up a whole.
And when someone in substantial power over others does a whole lotta selfserving lying deflecting,ignoring,misspelling,misquoting,namecal ling,cyberbullying, labeling,golfing and spending other peoples money...while RUNNING AWAY FROM fulfilling their oath of Office...they don't get to be compared to Churchill.
Exactly right. Not even mentioned in the same breath.
It s the parts that make up a whole.
And when someone in substantial power over others does a whole lotta selfserving lying deflecting,ignoring,misspelling,misquoting,namecal ling,cyberbullying, labeling,golfing and spending other peoples money...while RUNNING AWAY FROM fulfilling their oath of Office...they don't get to be compared to Churchill.
Except tbat Churchill did all of those things himself, which does make him comparable. Even more comparable, in fact, thanks to you providing the additional features that they share.
Except the cyberbullying, of course. Churchill was known for his Commonwealth-wide radio broadcasts, which were an enormously big deal during WWII. However, you never know. Churchill was reputed to have been rather Mercurial and he may very well have been a big fan of using Twitter, if they had it back then.
For a more interesting comparison, I'm providing a Wikipedia link. Please note the vast amount of experience Churchill had, as compared to Trump, who had none.
Churchill stood up to his nation's foreign adversary. Trump praises and placates our foreign adversary.
Churchill's speeches sent a chill up your spine. Trump's sends the bile rising in your throat.
Churchill's insults even put Trump's to shame.
Trump is far closer to Neville Chamberlain than he ever will be to Churchill.
Churchill--"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." Trump--"No collusion, no collusion."
You are correct on theRoosevelt character traits you highlight. I commented strictly on how the media portrayed him at the time. His gruff, direct, for the times, abrasive style. Which are both accurate and a fare comparison.
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Teddy Roosevelt was well-read, a veteran, a patriotic American, a conservationist and a lover of the natural world, a faithful husband and loving and devoted father, and so much more than you credit him with being.
Snippet of a quote and not in synch with the actuality of how Roosevelt acted politically on the stump and the public main. He was revered by his supporters, but also considered a loose cannon by many, both supporters and his political opponents, of which there are many. I cannot think of another presidential candidate who tore his own party apart for the sake of his own attempted reelection and agenda.
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Just who was it who famously said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick"?
Quite right, I am pointing out one personality trait. None, none are the sum of the whole, rather of the many, many facets. Caricatures are your intellectual enemy.
Temperament? Then, any reading of either the volatile Mr Roosevelt or Mr Churchill would cause them to be dismissed, out of hand.
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blah blah blah. In the end what you want to do is pick out one single thing, rather then the whole. I could argue that Trump has far more in common with oh say....Hitler or some other great evil, and probably manage that by cherry picking the comparisons.
And the title? The Churchillian mr trump? Sorry, but when thats the topic at hand, its not "some small individual thing that they have in common", its "this is why trump is very much like Churchill. Which requires a larger comparison. And when the OP starts the discussion they use words like temperament. And in point of fact, its that very subject that I posted about. His temperament.
So please, lets talk about the topic, not some goal post moved cherry picked comparison.
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