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years ago, I was in Israel. Got in a cab. Cab driver had an M-16 sitting on the seat beside him. He was a reservist on duty that week.
went to the Dead Sea. There was a family there. They were swimming and grilling and having a good time. Dad was manning the grill with an actual assault weapon (military grade M-16) hanging on his shoulder.
Israel has strict gun laws and at the same time is armed to the teeth. so lets not pretend that this is some kind of an unarmed nation.
IF you are in the military you take your weapon with you. If you are not in the military you have to show a need to get a permit which has to be renewed every three years. I never said that Israel was an un armed country, only that they have much stricter gun ownership laws than we do.
Why not go back to the days of the old west and allow anyone to carrying a weapon of their choice?
We could even have classes on, target shooting, quick draw, etc.
Or why don't we just hold those responsible for failing to stop these slaughters accountable? Do we want to see the 'song and dance' routines by our republicans who are funded by the NRA while parents are burying their children?
We have elected people who are more concerned with blowing money out the window on the military and waging war than protecting the children of America.
We won't find their kids in public school, but they don't mind telling you where your children must go and risk their lives. In so many cities our children are more concerned about not getting shot going to and from, and while in school, than the subjects the need to learn. This will continue until people start standing up to these tyrants. It's time to really drain the swamp.
And more guns isn't the right thing. I am yet to hear that civilian good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns and we have all heard about misfire and accidental gunfire hurting if not killing people, by police, why expect any less from the teachers. As a human being, I don't want to maim someone, I don't think I can live with myself if I did. I am an educator and if my state calls for it, I will say no, even for the money.
" I am yet to hear that civilian good guys with guns stop bad guys"
Where do you get your "news"?
FBI says from 1 MILLION to 2.5 MILLION times a year it happens.
Read and LEARN.
I suggest you visit the "Armed citizen"
571 PAGES of REAL stories.
BUT, you will NEVER see it or read about it from ANY of the major media.
Teachers are there to teach, not provide security for the school. Law enforcement, while generally higher up the ladder in terms of training and skills, are not generally trained for these events unless part of SWAT. If you want to put armed staff in schools, how about 3-4 ex-military.
Those that have combat experience, are experts with their weapons, tactics and far less likely to turn and run the other way. Infantry, Marines, SEALS, Special Forces, are the types that would excel at these types of jobs. And after 15 years of war, I bet you could find a slew of them willing to fill these types of jobs.
"are not generally trained for these events"
Which is WHY they should BE TRAINED which is one of the suggestions.
It's a good point - the NRA should put up or shut up instead crying again about Obama/the Democrats coming to take their guns BUT let's be realistic - have you been in a school ? The majority of teachers don't want anything to do with a gun and probably don't want more of them in schools. Hardening the target is a good idea - but with LE or private guards and better discipline in schools would also help but all those are only small steps.
How about a national firearms and ammo database (still legal ownership). An assault weapons ban (like 2004) Police/FBI/ATF ability to put individuals on a firearm ban list based on their assessment of their risk (that may have stopped the FL shooter).
" An assault weapons ban (like 2004)"
Which did NOT ban "assault weapons" at all.
"he NRA should put up or shut"
I don't think you anymore about the NRA except what the Lame Stream Media (who is ANTI gun,) tells you.
Just rifles that LOOKED LIKE a military rifles.
The stats show that NO appreciative changes occurred like was predicted.
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My father was a Marine and a Viet Nam vet, with his PTSD he was likely to pull a gun on family if he was triggered. He once thought he heard something and shot a hole through the wall into the guest bedroom. My uncle couldn't deal with fireworks, he would hit the ground and scream. I loved my father and uncle, but just because someone is a vet doesn't mean that they should be in charge of guarding schools.
Always with the wild exaggerating.
NO ONE is asking for ANYBODY wish any metal problems to help guard our schools.
Why not go back to the days of the old west and allow anyone to carrying a weapon of their choice?
We could even have classes on, target shooting, quick draw, etc.
Or why don't we just hold those responsible for failing to stop these slaughters accountable? Do we want to see the 'song and dance' routines by our republicans who are funded by the NRA while parents are burying their children?
We have elected people who are more concerned with blowing money out the window on the military and waging war than protecting the children of America.
We won't find their kids in public school, but they don't mind telling you where your children must go and risk their lives. In so many cities our children are more concerned about not getting shot going to and from, and while in school, than the subjects the need to learn. This will continue until people start standing up to these tyrants. It's time to really drain the swamp.
Better yet, we should just make everyone carry semi-automatic firearms. I'm told that granting everyone the right to concealed carry will deter crime, because criminals would not attack someone who is potentially armed. This has already worked wonders in low-crime countries like the South Sudan, Afghanistan, and Somalia (as opposed to countries with both tough gun ownership laws and vast amounts of gun-related crime like Britain, Japan, and Australia). What could possibly go wrong?
Better yet, we should just make everyone carry semi-automatic firearms. I'm told that granting everyone the right to concealed carry will deter crime, because criminals would not attack someone who is potentially armed. This has already worked wonders in low-crime countries like the South Sudan, Afghanistan, and Somalia (as opposed to countries with both tough gun ownership laws and vast amounts of gun-related crime like Britain, Japan, and Australia). What could possibly go wrong?
"Better yet, we should just make everyone carry semi-automatic firearms"
There goes any chance of trying to have an honest ADULT conversion about this serious issue!
"Better yet, we should just make everyone carry semi-automatic firearms"
There goes any chance of trying to have an honest ADULT conversion about this serious issue!
I'm not the one peddling the asinine suggestion that broad conceal and carry laws coupled with ubiquitous gun ownership will reduce crime and gun violence when other countries have already given us examples of what policies do/do not work. If you have a complaint, go take it up with them.
NO ONE is asking for ANYBODY wish any metal problems to help guard our schools.
Just the OPPOSITE.
So quit being so shortsighted.
4 out of 5 Viet Nam veterans report signs of PTSD 20-25 years after service.
Veterans are twice as likely as civilians to commit suicide.
22 vet a DAY commit suicide.
31% of Iraq and Afghanistan vets have PTSD one year after deployment.
50% of vets do not seek treatment for PTSD.
260,000 Iraq and Afghanistan vets have been diagnosed with traumatic brain injuries.
39% of Iraq and Afghanistan vets abuse alcohol.
Sorry but with so many mental health problems among vets, I would not be one to point out using vet as a solution to this problem. Vets need more funding for mental health, they don't need to be in positions where they may be triggered.
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