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Old 02-22-2018, 08:30 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by North Beach Person View Post
When someone states that parents have a right to know if teachers are armed then the minutiae is definitely important.
Why? What are you going to do about it?
Pull your kid out of school?
Resist?
Demand to know which teachers and the location of the guns?

The law says that you are going to send your kid to school. It's up to the state to make sure that the school follows any rules, but it's not up to you to pick and choose what rules you like.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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What is stopping them from doing so now?
The same thing that stopped the United States from having a major terrorist attack...until 9/11 happened.


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What did they say the last time that happened...?
Oh, yeah.
LMAO...Normalcy Bias? Really?? You can’t be serious.
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Why? What are you going to do about it?
Pull your kid out of school?
Resist?
Demand to know which teachers and the location of the guns?

The law says that you are going to send your kid to school. It's up to the state to make sure that the school follows any rules, but it's not up to you to pick and choose what rules you like.
Parents have a right to know. Period. How they respond - keeping the child in that school, choosing a different, private school, or homeschooling - is their decision.

I'm frankly not sure how I feel about the idea of arming teachers. I can see both pros and cons. The thing that really bothers me about this story is the aura of secrecy about it. I am a firm believer in people having the ability to make informed decisions.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:33 AM
 
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Hell of a response.

Nothing, that's what I though...
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:34 AM
 
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Why? What are you going to do about it?
Pull your kid out of school?
Resist?
Demand to know which teachers and the location of the guns?

The law says that you are going to send your kid to school. It's up to the state to make sure that the school follows any rules, but it's not up to you to pick and choose what rules you like.
Homeschool.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:43 AM
 
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I don't understand your point, so I'll restate mine. If cops, who train regularly to improve shooting accuracy, can manage to hit their live target 10-30% of the time, what exactly are you expecting teachers do in a live shootout? Errant shots? Hitting students? Losing the gun fight b/c they have 1 magazine?

You're right, hell, I don't even understand why I wrote that.


First you don't know what the person experience is with his pistol, what their qualification are with that pistol. Remember, these are people who want to do it, the principal is not going to say, here you go, I don't care if you want to carry or not, you are.






I mean, you are saying that cops, who practice (how many times a year?) only hit their targets 10-30% of the time, and they are not going to have errant shots, hitting students? Can you provide a link to your 10-30% comment?


Yet have no clue about how many times a year a person who wants to carry goes to the range. I personally go to the range 2-3 times a month and shoot 2-3 hundred rounds.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:58 AM
 
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You're right, hell, I don't even understand why I wrote that.


First you don't know what the person experience is with his pistol, what their qualification are with that pistol. Remember, these are people who want to do it, the principal is not going to say, here you go, I don't care if you want to carry or not, you are.






I mean, you are saying that cops, who practice (how many times a year?) only hit their targets 10-30% of the time, and they are not going to have errant shots, hitting students? Can you provide a link to your 10-30% comment?


Yet have no clue about how many times a year a person who wants to carry goes to the range. I personally go to the range 2-3 times a month and shoot 2-3 hundred rounds.
Seeing as no formal policy has been created or implemented, we know nothing of the details of how it would be carried out. We don't know if the schools would ask for volunteer or if a teacher would be mandated. We don't know any of the details.

And while I appreciate you practice 2 - 3 times a month, you know that most people don't do that. They do the 8 hour course for the conceal and carry and off they go (if the course is required)

I know many that get the Conceal and carry and then do nothing.

That's a bit of a beef I have with some of my friends (women) who are so proud of their little pink gun. They go once when they get it and then maybe once a year. And they then think they are ready to fight off the bad guys.

I have more respect for the gun and know that it would take lots of practice to properly use it.

The reason we do drills is so that it is routine to react -- we don't have to think because we can't think rationally in that moment. It has to be automatic. You can't get that without intensive training.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If my kids' school district starts arming teachers at their schools, they need to tell the parents. I want to know. Not which teachers necessarily, just that there are guns at their school and not strapped onto the SROs belts.
I doubt those in Ohio are as hoblophobic as those in CA and NY.
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Old 02-23-2018, 06:58 AM
 
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You're right, hell, I don't even understand why I wrote that.
I think we can all agree on this.
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Old 02-23-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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Seeing as no formal policy has been created or implemented, we know nothing of the details of how it would be carried out. We don't know if the schools would ask for volunteer or if a teacher would be mandated. We don't know any of the details.

And while I appreciate you practice 2 - 3 times a month, you know that most people don't do that. They do the 8 hour course for the conceal and carry and off they go (if the course is required)

I know many that get the Conceal and carry and then do nothing.

That's a bit of a beef I have with some of my friends (women) who are so proud of their little pink gun. They go once when they get it and then maybe once a year. And they then think they are ready to fight off the bad guys.

I have more respect for the gun and know that it would take lots of practice to properly use it.

The reason we do drills is so that it is routine to react -- we don't have to think because we can't think rationally in that moment. It has to be automatic. You can't get that without intensive training.

I would find it hard to believe they would say "you're gonna carry, period" to someone who does not want to carry.


But, it looks like they have plenty of volunteers....


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Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones announced the free training on social media on Sunday evening and said there were 50 requests in 20 minutes.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/us/oh...iff/index.html


And I also agree, most don't practice like they should.


Just the thought that someone maybe armed is a deterrent.
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