Cutting Ties to NRA (MERGED) (spokesman, independent, Hispanics, high school)

[rebeldor]

Originally Posted by don1945

No, the NRA has always been politically motivated and had politicians treading on eggs so as to not offend their membership. They are bullies, throwing their weight around, with the one goal of selling more and more guns.

They may have started off as a hunting driven organization, but they morphed into a monster who thought they could control our lawmakers (and, for the most part, they did).

Glad to see so many companies distancing themselves from the NRA, about time.

The NRA is a bunch of spineless sellouts who only serve to promote cops and gun manufacturers. They care not a wit about gun rights.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

Companies believe that more people oppose the NRA than favor it. Otherwise they wouldn’t be dropping their connections with the NRA like it was poison to their brand. 5 million NRA members < 200 non-member adults. Even if you counted all gun owners as NRA supporters, which they are not, there are more non-gun owners than gun owners. Plus, I would guess that non-gun owners dominate the demographics that most companies target; i.e., younger, urban and suburban, higher income and college grads. Among college grads, the gun owner rate is only about 25%.

The demographics of gun ownership in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

That's a key. Years ago, a NYC tabloid sought advertising from a high end store, and was rebuffed with comment "Your readers are our shoplifters".

While in voting, high income and low income count equally, that is not true in business.

[redwood66]

Originally Posted by don1945

Last time I checked, AAA wasn't into guns that kill children.

[southbel]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

Companies believe that more people oppose the NRA than favor it. Otherwise they wouldn’t be dropping their connections with the NRA like it was poison to their brand. 5 million NRA members < 200 non-member adults. Even if you counted all gun owners as NRA supporters, which they are not, there are more non-gun owners than gun owners. Plus, I would guess that non-gun owners dominate the demographics that most companies target; i.e., younger, urban and suburban, higher income and college grads. Among college grads, the gun owner rate is only about 25%.

The demographics of gun ownership in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

Um, not really. Companies try to avoid anything that hints at controversial. Extremists, which right now are going nuts with their rabid hate of the NRA, are by their very definition, well, extreme. You see this all the time and the knee jerk reaction is not surprising. Plus, there's no fiduciary relationship with the NRA in these instances. It was just discounts given to members, a large number of which likely didn't even use. I never did.

[redwood66]

Originally Posted by Bureaucat

Companies believe that more people oppose the NRA than favor it. Otherwise they wouldn’t be dropping their connections with the NRA like it was poison to their brand. 5 million NRA members < 200 non-member adults. Even if you counted all gun owners as NRA supporters, which they are not, there are more non-gun owners than gun owners. Plus, I would guess that non-gun owners dominate the demographics that most companies target; i.e., younger, urban and suburban, higher income and college grads. Among college grads, the gun owner rate is only about 25%.

The demographics of gun ownership in the U.S. | Pew Research Center

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

That's a key. Years ago, a NYC tabloid sought advertising from a high end store, and was rebuffed with comment "Your readers are our shoplifters".

While in voting, high income and low income count equally, that is not true in business.

That is so cute what you both did right there.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by southbel

Um, not really. Companies try to avoid anything that hints at controversial. .

That is because association with controversial groups is a net money loser for corps.

[southbel]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

That is because association with controversial groups is a net money loser for corps.

Not always but people concentrate on that instead of the product which is not what any company would want. I think everyone would agree the NRA is controversial much like the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, etc is also controversial.

I don't care if these companies stopped the NRA discounts but to act like this is some signal that the NRA is going down is both naive and illogical. You wouldn't believe the number of people on social media who thought these companies gave money to the NRA and this would bankrupt the NRA. So much ignorance out there.

[southbel]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

That's a key. Years ago, a NYC tabloid sought advertising from a high end store, and was rebuffed with comment "Your readers are our shoplifters".

While in voting, high income and low income count equally, that is not true in business.

Depends on the business, yes? After all, there is Walmart and they seemed to do okay catering to the lower income.

[aus10]

Originally Posted by southbel

Depends on the business, yes? After all, there is Walmart and they seemed to do okay catering to the lower income.

And they are also the largest retailer of guns in the U.S.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by southbel

Not always but people concentrate on that instead of the product which is not what any company would want. I think everyone would agree the NRA is controversial much like the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, etc is also controversial.

I don't care if these companies stopped the NRA discounts but to act like this is some signal that the NRA is going down is both naive and illogical. You wouldn't believe the number of people on social media who thought these companies gave money to the NRA and this would bankrupt the NRA. So much ignorance out there.

You can bet corps surveyed their customer base to determine NRA support is a net loser now.

So the NRA can exist, and pay full price on stuff, just like any other unpopular organization can.