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Old 03-01-2018, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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It's not far fetched.

Just look at how many unarmed black kids got shot by other authorities with guns.

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The largest threat to young black men is other young black men. Also like it or not the facts are that black young men statistically commit more crime and tend to live in high crime neighborhoods, this FACT makes them more likely to have a confrontation with law enforcement. Racism has nothing to do with any of this, the prevalence of violence and crime in these neighborhoods has everything to do with it. I am sure I will be called a racist, the post may even be deleted but until society gets beyond all of this ignorant political correctness and begins to deal with reality we can’t expect to see any meaningful change that will slow or end this cycle of violence.
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Old 03-01-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Since a majority of blacks shot are shot by black and hispanic authorities....do you suggest we only arm white teachers and cops?
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Old 03-02-2018, 05:46 PM
 
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the author is certain that teachers will wantonly mow down only brown and black students. you really think that's 'bound to happen'?
Only the black and brown students that assault teachers
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Old 03-13-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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more moonbat lunacy. no, it's not The Onion.
Wow. I guess truly ANYTHING can be viewed as racist.
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Arming teachers in not the answer, imo. Just because someone is a teacher or a school administrator does not mean that s/he does not have mental health issues. Frankly, I am surprised that there aren't more reports of school personnel violently "losing it" given what so many of them face every day -- goofy district policies, irate parents, out-of-control kids, etc., etc., etc. Unless teachers are prohibited from carrying firearms to school, what would there be to prevent workplace violence from a staff member? ( Of course, I do realize that these days it is much more likely that a student will harm a teacher than vice versa, however.)

This is an article about violence against students in just one state (Ohio):

Few teachers fired for physical abuse - News - The Columbus Dispatch - Columbus, OH
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Old 03-13-2018, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Arming teachers in not the answer, imo. Just because someone is a teacher or a school administrator does not mean that s/he does not have mental health issues. Frankly, I am surprised that there aren't more reports of school personnel violently "losing it" given what so many of them face every day -- goofy district policies, irate parents, out-of-control kids, etc., etc., etc. Unless teachers are prohibited from carrying firearms to school, what would there be to prevent workplace violence from a staff member? ( Of course, I do realize that these days it is much more likely that a student will harm a teacher than vice versa, however.)

This is an article about violence against students in just one state (Ohio):

Few teachers fired for physical abuse - News - The Columbus Dispatch - Columbus, OH
There is currently nothing that woukd prevent a teacher from bringing a gun into school. The recent shooting illustrated that. However if we allow those that want to carry be able to and be screened and trained, you have an invaluable asset.
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Old 03-13-2018, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Tell me how adding more guns to a campus reduces the odds of people being shot? That's like saying the solution to too much drinking is adding a bar to the place.

If gun control laws are flawed because they are imperfect, than by definition, adding more guns to a situations simply means you've increased the odds of the imperfect laws failing to catch a dangerous person before arming them.

So, what's is it going to be the moment one of these armed teachers shoots somebody incorrectly? Arm the students? Put armed guards in place to watch the armed teachers who watch the students? Right-wing extremism at its finest - fix the problem with too many guns with more guns! Laughable.
Tell me how prohibiting firearms on school property has reduced the odds of students being shot. Then we can discuss which plan has better odds.

The anti-gun way has been tried in schools since the early nineties. It has failed miserably. The frequency of school shootings has more than doubled since the GFZ law was passed in a vain attempt at pretending that wishing works. Yet, there still seems to be some residual hope on the anti-gun side that if we just give it a little more time or if we can just legislate a few more innocuous laws "for the sake of the children" the gun free signs will form a magical shield that repels firearms and evildoers.

How often did teachers slaughter their students in the seventies and eighties? It seems that such stories would have been national headline material, doesn't it? It isn't as if teachers didn't carry prior to 1994. They just didn't typically do so openly, for the most part. There wasn't a wave of students being shot dead in the hallways because they wouldn't stop talking in class. I seriously doubt that allowing teachers to voluntarily carry their personal firearm on school grounds would result in any serious risk to students.

What makes you believe that teachers today have so little self-control that they would suddenly snap and shoot up their classrooms? Or do you truly believe that merely possessing a firearm makes one unstable and murderous?
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