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Old 02-24-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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you certainly know the moral issue has little to do with who is in the White house. Let's talk about Kennedy or Clinton plus many others. No, this has nothing to do with the overall declining morals. None of the kids Trump has had or Kennedy had were illegitimate
Not only that, zero of Trump's kids were Medicaid births (the OP mentioned Medicaid births...and, additionally, JFK's kids were born before Medicaid existed) and, other than the normal tax deduction anyone gets for their dependents, taxpayers obviously didn't have to pay to help raise Trump's kids (and for anyone who says we don't know that because Trump didn't release his taxes....The IRS would know, and they would have busted him for trying to deduct anything kid related not available to others).

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Overall the problem became out of control starting in the 60s
Let me add,I am not defending Trumps morals either.
Me neither.

 
Old 02-24-2018, 08:33 PM
 
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Tiffany Trump was born two months before Donald married her mother, Marla.
You're right. We stand corrected.

I wonder if her siblings (), or others, have ever given her a hard time about that.

I remember having a conversation with an attractive, normal (development wise) girl at a party when I was in college. She's an only child, and her parents were both 47 when she was born. Re the age of her parents, she said kids teased her and called her 'mongol' while she was growing up.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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I don't single parents are a indication of crumbling morals (whatever that means... ). Divorce and non-married cohabitation couples isn't the taboo that it was in past years.... I'd rather have people happy going their own ways than unhappy forced to live with someone.

Keep in mind... women are much more likely to initiate the divorce.

What is a problem is having children when one cannot afford to provide for it... and or abandoning the children you are suppose to be responsible for. Education and making birth control more available is the key.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 08:38 PM
 
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Yet another interesting stat is the number of people who parrot - ad nauseum - stupid nomenclature they hear on Fox News and InfoWars. "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is but one example. If I had a dollar for every time I've read it in the last month alone, I'd be as rich as Trump.
I invented the term.

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Old 02-24-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I also was raised in the 50s and completely disagree with you.
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Tiffany Trump was born two months before Donald married her mother, Marla.
Life begins at the first birthday.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 08:47 PM
 
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taxpayers obviously didn't have to pay to help raise Trump's kids .
Suppliers, contractors, bondholders, banks, investors...and, yes, taxpayers paid a LOT to keep Trump from being FAR in the red forever. 10,000 Medicaid births are a bargain compared to what he has cost us.

I lived within a few miles of Atlantic City when this was going on. Just one small action was his taking of 300 million of saved-up taxpayer money to build special roads and tunnels to service Casinos he never built or ran into bankruptcy. He ripped off some friends of mine for products.

Believe me - lots of people paid for Trumps lifestyle. He's no Warren Buffet.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 08:55 PM
 
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The opposite it true - men are the fathers of these children, have multiple children with multiple women without marrying any of them. Its outrageous that you should claim that crumbling morals is all about women. Takes two to tango you know.

I do think, despite those statistics women are more morale and better than men. I suspect most of these women would love to have a decent man in their lives and father their children, if only they didn't keep finding out the hard way that there are so few.
If the bolded were that important to them, then they could stay chaste until married and, as such, wouldn't have to worry about finding out the hard way.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 09:04 PM
 
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https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...tiple-partners

Seems like 22% of women who have 2 or more biological children have had multiple fathers for the children.

As many would say, 22% of women with 2 or more children have multiple baby daddies. Wonder what that number was two generations ago.

Just another example of crumbling morals in America!

Will be rather interesting with the next generation as in 24 states a majority of births are Medicaid births and over 40% are unmarried births these days.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...-born-medicaid
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/unm...ildbearing.htm
I suppose this has been asked already ... how does that stack up with men with two or more kids?
 
Old 02-24-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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Just for comparison's sake, Robert Mueller has been married to the same woman for 50 years. She's also the mother of both of his children. Now, there's a loyal guy.
 
Old 02-24-2018, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Just for comparison's sake, Robert Mueller has been married to the same woman for 50 years. She's also the mother of both of his children. Now, there's a loyal guy.
Maybe. Maybe not.
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