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Unfortunately they don't care about or give a rat's ass about the Constitution. They consider it to be a "living breathing document" that can be easily be changed without going through the amendment process that is prescribed by law. The Constitution is a major obstacle in their desire to turn the United States into a socialist aristocracy of which they have absolute power and control. Obviously the guns gotta' go as they did in a country such as Venezuela.
Don't look now, but the last change to 2A didn't go through the Amendment process, and my guess is you think the Heller decision is a wonderful thing, even though you may not have ever read it or have a clue what it says.
In addition to giving D.C. residents the right to own handguns, it states that limitations and restrictions can be put on various classes of firearms. Those would not need to be the results of a Constitutional Convention to ve valid. That, BTW, was Antonin Scalia's opinion. Google it.
I'm a mostly moderate slightly liberal person so I can't vote. That said, I think the second ammendment should be kept but DRASTICALLY reduced. Ban magazines with over 10 rounds, ban bump stocks and ban military grade weapons (of war) and semi-automatics. Also remove the gun show loophole.
So, how is that different than current firearms restrictions?
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You cannot use it legally except on private property. That is your argument, not mine, which I am applying to the situation at hand.
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Correct. On any welcoming private property(as well as welcoming publicly owned land, with its own restrictions) . How is that any different than our current firearms laws?
Yes. Is that different than current firearms restrictions?
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So, then, you are suggesting that there should be no regulations on guns as long as you keep them on your property? I'm cool with that.
As soon as you carry one across your property line, however, it's gonna cost you.
]Money and/or Hard Time.
In your imaginary scenario, it is illegal to transport a firearm?
You may have blown a fuse between your thoughts and reality.
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I'm a mostly moderate slightly liberal person so I can't vote. That said, I think the second ammendment should be kept but DRASTICALLY reduced. Ban magazines with over 10 rounds, ban bump stocks and ban military grade weapons (of war) and semi-automatics. Also remove the gun show loophole.
I'm not trying to be argumentative....but why the magazine reduction. Even me, a little ole' lady during a gun class, learned how to effectively change magazines in under 3 seconds.... And I was the SLOW one in the class..... I just never got quite how banning magazines is going to do any good..... Someone determined to do as much killing as possible is going to be more than proficient in changing them no matter how many rounds are in each one......
There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that states one is entitled to a semi-automatic weapon. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
There is no need to 'repeal' the 2nd amendment nor any serious call to do so. Stop your pearl clutching.
Wait until someone tries to legislate your body before you get ALL worked up.
The Supreme Court already ruled on that:
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"Obviously the amendment does not apply to arms that can not be hand carried--It's to keep and 'bear' so it doesn't apply to cannons. But I suppose there are hand held rocket launchers that can bring down airplanes, that will have to be decided."-- "The 2nd Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding."--- Antonin Scalia (Heller vs DC) www.law.cornell.edu/suplt
2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose:* For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons. Pp.*54–56.
Semi automatic weapons indeed constitute bearable arms and are indeed in common use. I have no pearls to clutch. It is what it is. You choose not to accept it, but that still doesn't change a God damn thing.
There is nothing in the 1st Amendment that states one is entitled to a radio, TV station, the internet or any other means of electronic communications. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
The 2nd A is there to allow "the people" to defend themselves against a tyrannical government.
To allow it to be removed would simply be giving the government the power it needs to run rampant with tyranny. Heck, I've got to wonder who DOESN'T think it's already heading that way..
If the government has already been heading towards tyranny, why hasn't the pro-second amendment crowd done anything about it? I've been hearing for years about how we're losing so many liberties, the surveillance state increasing, government overreach beyond out of control...yet the wannabee reactionaries who are supposed to protect us against tyranny are sitting on their couches drinking beer, allowing it to happen...
Why It's Time to Repeal the Second Amendment
"[It] needs to be repealed because it is outdated, a threat to liberty and a suicide pact,"
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